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GOP lawmakers and analysts virtually unanimous that Trump was second best to Harris in first presidential debate
Donald Trump’s campaign was in damage control mode on Wednesday amid widespread dismay among supporters over a presidential debate performance that saw Kamala Harris, his Democratic opponent, repeatedly goad him into going wildly off-message and missing apparent opportunities to tackle her on policy.
Even with Trump insisting to have won the debate “by a lot”, Republicans were virtually unanimous that Trump had come off second best in a series of exchanges that saw the vice-president deliberately bait him on his weak points while he responded with visible anger.
The Republican nominee – who took the unusual step afterwards of visiting the media spin room, a venue normally frequented only by candidates’ surrogates – was non-committal on Wednesday to the Harris campaign’s proposal for a second debate. Despite widespread opinion to the contrary, Trump suggested she needed it because she had lost. “I’d be less inclined to because we had a great night. We won the debate,” he told Fox & Friends.
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I’ve heard a lot of bitching from a conservative I know that “the debate was unfair because they didn’t fact check Harris and thus it was a sham”
The thing that they were mad Harris wasn’t checked for? Her comments on Trump’s “it will be a bloodbath” comment during one of his rallies. Then they whined about Harris not being clear about her policies despite Trump not answering a single question.
If that’s the best arguments they can come up with to defend Trump’s dumpster fire of a debate performance, then they’re really not having a good time.
Business interests, evangelicals, and cops/white supremacists.
Oh yeah, and that 50+ year campaign of gerrymandering, voter suppression (e.g. vote on tuesday, in person, during business hours, no time off work), abstracting the election process away from the ballot, and designing the court system to favor conservative calls in disputed elections.
America has a rather anti-democratic voting system…
Hey now, let’s be fair!
It’s entirely possible he rigorously prepared and that was genuinely the best he could do.
He did say that he watched the news. If he didn’t prepared, how else would he have known about people eating cats? Checkmate liberals.
Didn’t he say “television” and not specifically “news”? For all we know, he most likely saw that on some cartoon show.
Old reruns of Alf.
Wait until their secrets are threatened to be exposed and then see how they all change their tune in the next couple days.
Who’s secret? What did I miss?
Also, I forgot to ask about this last night…
“Where is he?” Trump asked. “They threw him out of the campaign like a dog.”
Does Trump think you just kick dogs out of your home and they go away?
Does Trump think you just kick dogs out of your home and they go away?
If you live near immigrants, yes.
Hide yo dogs, hide yo cats. They eatin erybody around here.
I understood that reference.
They climbin in yo window they snatching yo kitties up. Tryna eat them…
That’s one of his go-to turns of phrase, and like all his go-tos he grinds it into dust through overuse. Apparently, he is not a dog person.
It’s also why he wasn’t allowed around the family pets as a kid.
Probably would be if it was slathered in ketchup
“It’s always projection.” 🤣
Trump hates dogs.
Because dogs hate Trump. They can smell the gross.
Yes, but more to the point, he doesn’t understand them or what people do to them. You can hate dogs to the point that you kick every dog you see, but you’ll still likely understand that if you throw a dog out of the house, the dog won’t usually leave and never come back.
Where is he?
Dunno, prolly running the country or smth. 🤷♂️
At the same debate, Trump also claimed that he was thrown out of office, that he doesn’t know whether or not he’s alive and that Kamala Harris IS Joe Biden.
So I don’t think he actually knows that.
He just genuinely can not conceive of someone withdrawing voluntarily.
New headline: Republicans dismayed Trump literally did exactly what everyone knew Trump was going to do
… And They Will Still Vote For Him
GOP lawmakers not the voter base.
Yes. They will still vote for him.
Right? I think the expectation of everyone else was what we got on display.
Second best?! Really? Now we think participation trophies are fine? Ok whatever.
As for the aftermath of the debate. I like it. I enjoy that orange fuck getting made fun of and the memes are superb. But as expected, he could have yanked his pickle out and jerked off live on TV and his cultists would still defend him. I am 100% sure that this would have been the case. And there still would be people who are undecided!
I listened to a podcast that interviewed “undecideds” in swing states.
It’s was just absurd. They seem to be conservatives trying to make themselves feel more logical and intelligent.
One of them said that he was disappointed Harris didn’t seem to have a week developed plan for the economy, because he had doubts about her financial outcomes, but didn’t about trump.
It’s just absurd to me that anyone could spend more than a few seconds considering Trumps economic plans and conclude that he’s a sensible economic manager.
I think it’s more of a mushroom, but point taken.
According to Stormy Daniels it looks like Toad
Undecideds are fake by and large this time around. Just media bullshit or liars getting airtime.
2nd best is a turn of phrase, an old one. It’s an insult. You must not be very well read.
I read your comment very well, and I find it to be second best.
Only 2nd, not 3rd?
He can’t ever be prepared. He is stupid, narcissistic, impulsive and damn senile. Not the best combo.
That’s ok crazy orange grandfather, keep us informed about the people eating cats and dogs, and transgender operations on illegal aliens that are in prison.
Well it seems that Trump was a Biden 2.0 in this debate
Nah. Biden was old and tired. Trump is a bumbling insane person who was easily led by the nose. A strong woman of color made trump look incredibly weak to a base made up of racist whites. Trump was obviously the worst performance.
I mean the only reason he appeared ok first debate is Biden was so bad, he was never challenged, and able to run through he pre memorized shticks…
I’m surprised nobody is going after him for how low energy he was at the debate. He looked like he was gonna fall asleep. The only time his eyes opened wide was when she called out his crowd sizes
I’m surprised nobody is going after him for how low energy he was at the debate.
That was the least of his failings.
The blatant lying about pretty much everything is (and has always been) a much more serious problem with him.
I think people are talking about that because it’s one of the criticisms against Biden in the first debate. Now Trump is the old, tired, crazy man who shouldn’t be in this race, never mind running the country.
Not amongst the crowd that supports him, as they’re are all about how they feel about him, not about intellectually judging the quality of his arguments.
The “He was a weak drained old man in that debate” path of attack should be far more effective on that crowd, specifically on the ones who look up to him as being (in their view) strong, assertive and confident, who are probably the majority.
Like every other strongman “leader” out there, Donald’s strength in impressing a certain kind of voter - how he projects an image of being decisive and assured - is also a weakness as he ages when publicly confronted with a younger and sharper opposing candidate.
what is the term for “i will celebrate your death over your life”, Thatcherism?
Republicans: “What a bad and unprepared debate that was! He didn’t even get to the part about how life begins at conception and guns are more important than children!”
“IS SHE TALKING ABOUT ME?!!!”
Your stage whisper is perfect.
