• circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    6 days ago

    She should take the opportunity to debate an empty podium. (Mostly kidding, because when Eastwood “debated” an empty chair, he just seemed senile and silly.)

    But I do think the country needs to see Tim Walz give a good schooling to JD Vance.

    • Notyou@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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      5 days ago

      She should take the opportunity to debate an empty podium. (Mostly kidding, because when Eastwood “debated” an empty chair, he just seemed senile and silly.)

      A whole debate with that would be silly. She could turn it into a town hall style discussion and run commercials with her debating and “waiting” on donald. He could be scared somewhere with a blankie.

      Look at the debate from the start. His slow ass could barely make it to his podium before she was their to shake his hand. She was fast, confident, and looked strong to me. Donald looked like he was huffing to the stage.

    • TheLowestStone@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      6 days ago

      Trump wasn’t going to say anything coherent anyway. Just stick Alec Baldwin up there and have him read AI generated nonsense.

    • corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish
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      6 days ago

      I think the country seeing more of those two would really sway votes the way I’d prefer. So I’m biased.

      But gov Walz represents as very genuine and honest and caring, and the more we can see some of that on our TVs the more we can believe that a most-good-soonest kind of administration is an option.

      Look. They could lose. Or Harris and Walz could be faking, even if I don’t think so (or want to think so). Or gopnik fearmongering could be right and they could only be barely better than a Dump/Chance ticket.

      Just give us this. We haven’t had positivity and hope since prez Obama and the hope of Change[TM].

      Now, as I haven’t suggested everyone boycott for one particular single issue or another, I expect downvotes right to hell. So be it.

      • InverseParallax@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 days ago

        I think the country seeing more of those two would really sway votes the way I’d prefer. So I’m biased.

        It won’t change a single vote.

        It will only change the way they say they voted.

        It’s just like 2016 before the election, everyone is a devout libertarian, sticking by their principles.

        Speaking of voter fraud, did you know nobody voted for Bush in 2004? Everyone you ask says they didn’t now, weird huh?

      • Illuminostro@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 days ago

        Waltz is the guy you want to be your dad, your uncle, your coach, or just the highly respected friend at the bar.

        We need more of him. Clone him, someone.

  • Illuminostro@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Well, he was on enough Adderall to kill a horse. He probably wouldn’t survive a binge that massive again.

  • dejected_warp_core@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 days ago

    … and the moderators fact-checked his shit.

    Honestly, Kamala didn’t have to say anything. It was all “trump v trump” for a little while there which was worth seeing and has been the crown jewel of very debate digest. All that needed to happen was for moderators to call bullshit on his hyperbole and fabrication in real time.

    • deaf_fish@lemm.eeEnglish
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      5 days ago

      Kamala had to get him upset and she did. Kamala also had to avoid talking about policy details and avoid conversations about fracking.

      It was a win for Kamala, but it took some effort, it wasn’t easy.

  • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    5 days ago

    Ok, you know what Harris should do instead then? Do a live AMA on fox with real viewer questions. Seeing those numbers Trump wouldn’t be able to restrain himself from demanding another debate. And this time it’ll start with an announcer going “round two, fight!” and not end before “finish him!”

    • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
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      5 days ago

      She has nothing to gain from that. Why would she open herself to possibly critical questions she cannot prepare for?

      • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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        5 days ago

        Why should she be afraid of critical questions? Besides baiting Trump, Harris would also show that she will be the president of the entire country, not just the people who voted for her. I may have paraphrased that bit from the west wing, but it does have some merit.

        If american politics should be less polarized, then you can’t have a third of the citizens feeling left out. What good can come from dismissing the topics that Trump’s voters feel are important? Make them feel seen and make them feel heard. No, you probably can’t reach the rally going nuts, but if people only voted for Trump, if they’d been to a rally, then he wouldn’t be an issue.

        • Saleh@feddit.orgEnglish
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          5 days ago

          The US is deeply divided and the Democrats are deeply divided. Harris doesn’t have anywhere near the charisma of Obama or Bill Clinton. She will be elected on not being Trump. Take for example how she handled protests against the continued support for Israel at the DNC. She outright told protestors that they shouldn’t talk about it, because that helps Trump and she denied any Palestinian-American to speak, because the party is dependent on AIPAC.

          She simply cannot be the president of the “entire country” at the moment. Addressing the rifts created by Trump, Hillary Clinton and the like takes time. Also she will need to purge a lot of people from the Biden establishment before being able to run on her own platform.

  • Etterra@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 days ago

    He was scared of her already. When they entered the stage he was intimidated. Go wash somebody reviewing body language and they’ll show you bit by bit just how bad it was. The part where he refused to even look at her no matter what his circumstances? Yeah he was terrified and no idea of how to process it.

  • nieminen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    Worth noting, that the person who feels like they won the debate won’t want more because it can only hurt them. He probably thinks he won.

    • doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      6 days ago

      It could be either; he thinks he won or he knows he lost and has no hope of improving.

      Fwiw I think the few undecideds that are left probably saw what they needed to make their decision last night.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 days ago

      The behaviour is also consistent with someone who knows they lost and expects to lose hard again if there’s a rematch. Maybe even more so if he had the impression he was holding his own while it was going and then saw what everyone else was saying after the fact.

      • nieminen@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 days ago

        I guess there’s always rational for either way being true, it’s all speculation anyway 😂

    • CaptDust@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      6 days ago

      I wonder what would make him think that… Oh. Just patting themselves on the back. The only “debate polls” he won are xitter bot garbage

  • Illuminostro@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    He always was afraid of her. He’s afraid of any woman who isn’t an Eastern Block prostitute/handler.

    • bignate31@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      5 days ago

      uhhh… Is that “confirmed”? Seems to say “Trump still won’t commit” which is substantially different from “Trump won’t do it”

        • Syrc@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          4 days ago

          Where? In the article I see

          “Are we going to do a rematch? I just don’t know,” he told reporters Wednesday afternoon. “We’ll think about it.”

          His comments suggest he is not altogether serious about a sequel. In a morning phone call to the co-hosts of “Fox & Friends,” he said, “when you win the debate, I don’t, I don’t know that I want to do another debate.”

          “I wouldn’t want to have Bret and Martha,” he said, before proposing Sean Hannity, Jesse Watters or Laura Ingraham instead.

          Trump told reporters Wednesday afternoon that he would theoretically show up for a debate hosted by either NBC or Fox, but first “we have to determine whether or not we even want to do it.”

          “Obviously, he likes these debates and he’s good at them, so I wouldn’t be surprised if he wants to step back in the ring, but I also wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t. It’s his choice,” Vance told Fox News.

          Which definitely shows insecurity, but nothing definite (unfortunately).

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 days ago

    Jerrymandering is now allowed across time dilation fronts. So a republican elector vote can count very many times due to superposition.

  • Lad@reddthat.comEnglish
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    6 days ago

    Hopefully this is the election that ends Trump’s political career once and for all. Guy just needs to fuck off for good.

    • carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      6 days ago

      The interviews with independents worry me. The Times was saying they complained about not getting enough specifics from Harris.

      Which is infurating being how handwavy Trump’s whole platform is. For example, I have no idea how he intends to get sub $2 gas being the last time it happened the price of crude was literally negative.

      • aesthelete@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        6 days ago

        Some independent voters are just Republicans that are ashamed to admit it. You are not persuading them.

        For movable independents, Harris spoke of infinitely more policy specifics because Trump had zippo the entire night.

        • Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          6 days ago

          All libertarians are just republicans minus the religion who probably smoke week. They’ll vote red all the live long day but will go full “Well Ackchyually” so they can easily dismiss when the guy they voted for does something truthfully awful

          • 800XL@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            6 days ago

            Libertarians are just people who think they shouldn’t have to pay taxes believe they deserve everything taxes pay for by virtue of their inflated self-worth

            • Wiz@midwest.socialEnglish
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              5 days ago

              Honest question: Do you vote? And which party must aligns most with your values?

              I would think it would be difficult for you in the mostly binary first-past-the-post political world we have.

              • webadict@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                5 days ago

                If I had to guess, the party that wants to convert the US to an authoritarian dictatorship through Project 2025 probably is less represented by an absolution of heirachical structures than the party that wants a maintaining of status quo. Not that they both don’t represent their own forms of heirarchical structures, but one is significantly harder to remove than the other.

    • pedz@lemmy.caEnglish
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      6 days ago

      Don’t be so sure. It may not be Trump but wanna bet that Elon Musk will run for president with the same kind of BS?

      • tektite@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        6 days ago

        Why do people keep saying this? Leon was born in South Africa. So unless Trump wins and fucks everything, the muskrat cannot be president.

        • pedz@lemmy.caEnglish
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          6 days ago

          I’m not American and did not realize this. That’s very good news. Thanks for pointing it out.

          • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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            6 days ago

            The only people that were able to be president and not born a US citizen, were the founding fathers. Basically you have to be born on US territory to be eligible. The Republicans tried to charge that so they could run Schwarzenegger but it didn’t get very far and probably won’t be tried again for a generation.

            But that’s not going to stop a naturally born American citizen sock puppet of Musky from trying to run as a candidate