• bluewing@lemm.ee
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    11 days ago

    The end effect of obligations, culture, and circumstances are all just consent - even without your direct permission. If the end result is not different, what is the difference then?

    Again, consent by any other name.

    • jet@hackertalks.com
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      11 days ago

      This discussion is going nowhere without a definition to shape it.

      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/consent

      To express willingness, to give permission.

      It is impossible to give permission or express willingness without knowledge.

      I reject your use of consent in your examples… it would be better expressed as situational realities or obligations of existence rather then mindful permission.

      • bluewing@lemm.ee
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        11 days ago

        Reject all you want. It does nothing to change the outcome.

        • BigFatNips@sh.itjust.works
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          11 days ago

          Consent comes before the outcome. If the outcome happens without consent, the outcome happens without consent. The word consent has a meaning and it isn’t “something that happened”

        • Nelots@lemm.ee
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          11 days ago

          You’re ignoring what they’re saying. They know that. They simply disagree with your definition of consent because, well, its not the definition of consent.