• ultramaven@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    So you just downvote me, because you didn’t quite understand.

    Brother, I’m happy the government of Finland is strong in the face of Russian fascists. But Republicans are not. And in America today, waving around John Oliver clips about “how obviously America is trash for 18 reasons” only exists to destroy a narrative with Trumpian citizens — those same citizens that wish to use their voting power to demolish the institution. They already have SCOTUS. Technically, they’ve already won the election.

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      3 months ago

      So you just downvote me, because you didn’t quite understand.

      Made my drink spill out my nose for laughing so hard.

      No, “brother”, it’s you who doesn’t understand. And this not understanding — willfully so even — is a hallmark of the American spirit.

      Saying “the US has been championing socialist policies for 100 years” is the same as saying “China has been championing personal freedom for 100 years”.

      “Waving around John Oliver America Bad clips” = “I don’t have the cognitive capabilities to pay attention to an award winning journalistic show that sources it’s claims so thus everything addressed in it is shit”

      The US still doesn’t have a direct presidential election, I don’t think you’ve quite understood what that means.

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        3 months ago

        You’re right, the phrasing is generous. I mean even 100 years ago, it’d be far more about championing white rights. If reconstruction went better… but that’s my point. I think we have differing definitions of the word “championing”. It does not mean to be the best, but rather the support for exists. And America has been pushing for these ideals. In comparison to so some other country, that isnt inundated with capitalist cowboys and slave stories — sure, nice. Even some countries that have those were able to. But still, those in America have championed for social rights, and fundamental programs exist that prove that. You just think it means “best in the world”, and after watching all the Olympics, I forgive you.

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          I think we have differing definitions of the word “championing”.

          No, we don’t. You’re trying to pretend we do, to get out of having said something utterly silly.

          It’s far sillier to try those sort of semantical shenanigans than just admitting to having said something silly in the first place.

          And America has been pushing for these ideals

          You had segregation just 60 years ago, you still don’t have limitless sickleave or even mandatory maternity leave. You have homeless people — who actually have jobs — shitting on the streets and dying from completely treatable things like infections, because they can’t afford the insane prices of healthcare. Education is more or less a joke, you’re literally burning books.

          America has been actively suppressing socialist policies (and complete governments). That’s a fact. Not an argument. Not an opinion. And definitely not up to semantics.