In a controversial interview on Fox News Sunday, Republican vice presidential candidate JD Vance drew a contentious comparison between Vice President Kamala Harris and the late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. Vance’s remarks were aimed at criticizing Harris’s economic policies and dismissing recent polling data that shows a challenging landscape for Donald Trump’s campaign.
Says the man who is the 2nd man on the ticket of the man borrowing Epsdein’s plane.
Like use some fucking common sense: why would they choose that plane on purpose?
Knowing the former history of the plane, why wouldn’t Trump tell them to literally give him any other fucking plane? if it were anyone else I’d write it off as a coincidence, but that man getting that plane isn’t just random chance. But you’re telling me not one person who was responsible for that transaction at any step of the way didn’t look at the renter, look at what plane he was renting, and say “Hey, given the history between these two, we may wanna give the guy another plane…”, even if only to avoid bad optics.
Trump being on that plane right now means he either knew and didn’t care, or directly requested it.
Whether I charter planes has nothing to do with vetting suppliers. I do vet my suppliers as a regular citizen. You do the same thing all the time. I check the reviews of various car rental agencies in the area I’m going to see which are better or worse. That is a form of vetting.
A Presidential campaign and former Presdient would 100% have access to more information than basic reviews. Given the public spectacle of Epstein, they should have information about where assets that Trump may come into contact with in the future are located to prevent this exact scenario.
I can only assume you replied to the wrong comment. I never said it was intentional. I never even implied it was intentional. I said the Trump political team is incompetent for letting the company use that specific aircraft with the history it has. His team being filled with incompetent people isn’t exactly a hot take.
Him using the plane isn’t really an issue, you’re right, it’s just a charter plane (that I hope they deep cleaned given its history). But the fact his staff didn’t prevent the usage of that specific aircraft, given the context, just shows they aren’t capable of seeing potential issues ahead of time that they easily could avoid.
Political staff normally try to vet suppliers and partners to minimize surprises like this. They normally keep track of issues from a politician’s past that could cause more issues in the future. Given Trump’s personal history with Epstein, and specifically the issue of Epstein’s plane being a primary piece of his pedophilic empire known to the general public, one would have thought they would keep tabs on that.
That is a completely different argument than “Trump purposefully choose to be on a former Epstein plane because… reasons” that the other guy is making. Yes, we all know the Trump team is inept, hence why they hang around the guy. The fact that they didn’t vet their supplier isn’t proof of some conspiracy.
When you rent a car do you ever ask who drove it prior?
If I were to recognize the car as one being owned by a murderer or pedo or something? Absolutely. Trump was on that plane enough to know it was Epstein’s. It would be like Michael Cohen saying he doesn’t recognize Trump’s jet.
If I were to recognize the car as one being owned by a murderer or pedo or something? Absolutely.
No you wouldn’t and we’re not talking about swapping our a Corolla for a Honda Civic. The amount of private jets for charter that can support someone like Trump and his company on such a short notice are in very limited supply. Beggers can’t be choosers, and all.
Trump was on that plane enough to know it was Epstein’s.
You have nothing to support this. It wasn’t the Lolita Express, it was just one plane of many that an LLC of Epstein’s owned.
There is plenty of actually supportable claims to make about Trump, this isn’t one of them and you are grasping at straws here
ETA: Let’s just let this train of thought run, though. What exactly do you think happened here? Trump intentionally grounded his plane because he knew a fleet jet from his old friend Epstein was available for charter and he really wanted to ride in it instead of his personal jet?
Dude the plane was probably liquidated, bought by some random charter company, and Trump hired a charter plane. It’s as much news as if I hired a taxi, and the taxi car that came over was previously owned by Epstein. That’s what this particular plane issue is.
If you think that’s a coincidence, I have beachfront property on Mars you may be interested in.
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Knowing the former history of the plane, why wouldn’t Trump tell them to literally give him any other fucking plane? if it were anyone else I’d write it off as a coincidence, but that man getting that plane isn’t just random chance. But you’re telling me not one person who was responsible for that transaction at any step of the way didn’t look at the renter, look at what plane he was renting, and say “Hey, given the history between these two, we may wanna give the guy another plane…”, even if only to avoid bad optics.
Trump being on that plane right now means he either knew and didn’t care, or directly requested it.
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Your rental car doesn’t have its VIN painted on the tail in large lettering and publically searchable.
It’s called vetting your suppliers. To make sure someone you’re using isn’t a potential liability.
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Whether I charter planes has nothing to do with vetting suppliers. I do vet my suppliers as a regular citizen. You do the same thing all the time. I check the reviews of various car rental agencies in the area I’m going to see which are better or worse. That is a form of vetting.
A Presidential campaign and former Presdient would 100% have access to more information than basic reviews. Given the public spectacle of Epstein, they should have information about where assets that Trump may come into contact with in the future are located to prevent this exact scenario.
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I can only assume you replied to the wrong comment. I never said it was intentional. I never even implied it was intentional. I said the Trump political team is incompetent for letting the company use that specific aircraft with the history it has. His team being filled with incompetent people isn’t exactly a hot take.
Him using the plane isn’t really an issue, you’re right, it’s just a charter plane (that I hope they deep cleaned given its history). But the fact his staff didn’t prevent the usage of that specific aircraft, given the context, just shows they aren’t capable of seeing potential issues ahead of time that they easily could avoid.
Political staff normally try to vet suppliers and partners to minimize surprises like this. They normally keep track of issues from a politician’s past that could cause more issues in the future. Given Trump’s personal history with Epstein, and specifically the issue of Epstein’s plane being a primary piece of his pedophilic empire known to the general public, one would have thought they would keep tabs on that.
That is a completely different argument than “Trump purposefully choose to be on a former Epstein plane because… reasons” that the other guy is making. Yes, we all know the Trump team is inept, hence why they hang around the guy. The fact that they didn’t vet their supplier isn’t proof of some conspiracy.
If I were to recognize the car as one being owned by a murderer or pedo or something? Absolutely. Trump was on that plane enough to know it was Epstein’s. It would be like Michael Cohen saying he doesn’t recognize Trump’s jet.
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No you wouldn’t and we’re not talking about swapping our a Corolla for a Honda Civic. The amount of private jets for charter that can support someone like Trump and his company on such a short notice are in very limited supply. Beggers can’t be choosers, and all.
You have nothing to support this. It wasn’t the Lolita Express, it was just one plane of many that an LLC of Epstein’s owned.
There is plenty of actually supportable claims to make about Trump, this isn’t one of them and you are grasping at straws here
ETA: Let’s just let this train of thought run, though. What exactly do you think happened here? Trump intentionally grounded his plane because he knew a fleet jet from his old friend Epstein was available for charter and he really wanted to ride in it instead of his personal jet?
It’s obvious that admitting they were wrong is out of the question.
Dude the plane was probably liquidated, bought by some random charter company, and Trump hired a charter plane. It’s as much news as if I hired a taxi, and the taxi car that came over was previously owned by Epstein. That’s what this particular plane issue is.
Never bring logic to a circlejerk.