As students return to college campuses across the United States, administrators are bracing for a resurgence in activism against the war in Gaza.

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    4 months ago

    Revoking the right to question the war, that’s awesome. It’s cool to violate 1st Amendment rights when the good guys do it!

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      We’ve been violating the First Amendment for about as long as we’ve had it. Our other felon presidential candidate ran from jail after being imprisoned for speaking out about World War 1 (which is a lot cooler than what the current one did).

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        Eugene V. Debs should have won every time, I have yet to see a bad take he had. He was anti-racist, feminist, and wanted to increase the right to vote to all Americans.

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      Who are the good guys? University administration?

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        The people pretending to educate citizens, then denying the citizens educating each other.

        The people pretending that war is good when Your Favorite Team does it.

        The people that act like murder is actually a complex issue.

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      1st Amendment only applies to the government. Unless these university admins are also members of government and acting in their capacity as such, then as shitty a move as this is, it’s not actually a 1st Amendment violation.

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        Some of the universities mentioned in the article are public institutions. SCOTUS held in Healy v James that the 1st Amendment applies to public universities. So some of the actions could be considered 1st Amendment violations.

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        Fun fact, the 1st amendment also applies to any organization or persons receiving money from the government (without it just being through sales ofc)

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        “It’s not illegal so that makes it cool.”

        I personally find the ides that if you want an eduction, which is required for modern living, you need to abandon your rights as a citizen. Mandatary and needed public goods shouldn’t strip you of your mandatory and needed rights.

        Students have their rights stripped, especially as a child, because some Karens and Kevins didn’t want to be a member of the HOA, they wanted to be a school board member.

        Bags searched and confiscated, protests shut down, students having harmless objects taken away out of a nebulous fear of “could maybe do somethig in the future”.

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          I wouldn’t say that’s the sentiment expressed when people remind others of the limitations of freedom of speech. More like it’s a reminder that knowing exactly where those boundaries lie because somethings aren’t the government’s job to mediate. Sometimes it’s our collective job to resist because nobody is coming to fix it for you.

          Realistically rights like the freedom of speech and expression are notoriously weak by way of actual protection by a culture. Russia technically has freedom of speech on the books but you can still be hauled off to prison for spreading “LGBTQIA propaganda”. What actually protects those rights are the expectations and moreover the outrage of a culture’s people against these acts of censorship regardless of who is perpetuating it.