I accidentally ended up at a religious university for medical school and you better believe I’ve gotten in numerous fights with the law and ethics professor (who, to be fair, is actually a MD/JD) regarding the prescribed conservative religious approach to the ethics discussions. I absolutely did not change his mind, but I did get a bunch of my classmates to start asking questions by putting myself out there and challenging the professor on their BS.
Edit: I should clarify that these fights were on mic in the recorded lectures, so there’s a hard record of my arguing with him.
I accidentally ended up at a religious university for medical school
Oh, yeah, we’ve all been there.
Also, religion and medicine don’t seem like things that should mix. They are bringing preconceived notions to the table that are not supposed by logic, that seems dangerous in the medical setting
I’m guessing the most important lesson in such a school is to not get upset when morons start praising God almighty after you saved their loved one in a day long operation or something.
You know, I’d be fine with it if it was God who got the credit as long as he also got the blame, but when I do something good and they start thanking God up and down, while when I make a decision they don’t like they start fuming that I am the arbiter of this darkness…
religion and medicine don’t seem like things that should mix
I mean I get where you’re coming from, but in places that don’t have a secular medical establishment it’s usually spiritual practitioners that fill the gap.
Thankfully, the extent of the religion in the education is in the ethics discussions and strong recommendations to discuss spirituality and religion with your patients because faith communities are “very important”. The religion does not make it into any of the actual medicine or science.
Alright class, now that we’ve removed the patient’s lungs, we’re gonna pray he gets better. Yes, I see a raised hand in the back row?
Yes, sorry - doesn’t he need a lung to survive?
Right, good catch. We’re first going to pray he grows a lung. Yes, you with the notebook?
Who will be doing the closing?
That’ll be sister Jane. Sister, 12 “hail Marys” and a closing prayer, please. Class dismissed.
And then I guess y’all watch as the man flatlines while the nuns go “please give this one some sutures God, I promise I’ll be good from now on” and “God, if ever you were going to grow organs, please, now’s the time. The man can’t breathe. It’s not his fault”
Sounds like a good time. Do they give degrees or do you need to pray to get hired?
I accidentally ended up at a religious university for medical school and you better believe I’ve gotten in numerous fights with the law and ethics professor (who, to be fair, is actually a MD/JD) regarding the prescribed conservative religious approach to the ethics discussions. I absolutely did not change his mind, but I did get a bunch of my classmates to start asking questions by putting myself out there and challenging the professor on their BS.
Edit: I should clarify that these fights were on mic in the recorded lectures, so there’s a hard record of my arguing with him.
Oh, yeah, we’ve all been there.
Also, religion and medicine don’t seem like things that should mix. They are bringing preconceived notions to the table that are not supposed by logic, that seems dangerous in the medical setting
I’m guessing the most important lesson in such a school is to not get upset when morons start praising God almighty after you saved their loved one in a day long operation or something.
You know, I’d be fine with it if it was God who got the credit as long as he also got the blame, but when I do something good and they start thanking God up and down, while when I make a decision they don’t like they start fuming that I am the arbiter of this darkness…
I mean I get where you’re coming from, but in places that don’t have a secular medical establishment it’s usually spiritual practitioners that fill the gap.
My concern is that in my experience religious dogma and anti-vaxism tend to go hand in hand.
Also the whole abortion debate which is really something that should even be a debate.
Thankfully, the extent of the religion in the education is in the ethics discussions and strong recommendations to discuss spirituality and religion with your patients because faith communities are “very important”. The religion does not make it into any of the actual medicine or science.
Alright class, now that we’ve removed the patient’s lungs, we’re gonna pray he gets better. Yes, I see a raised hand in the back row?
Yes, sorry - doesn’t he need a lung to survive?
Right, good catch. We’re first going to pray he grows a lung. Yes, you with the notebook?
Who will be doing the closing?
That’ll be sister Jane. Sister, 12 “hail Marys” and a closing prayer, please. Class dismissed.
And then I guess y’all watch as the man flatlines while the nuns go “please give this one some sutures God, I promise I’ll be good from now on” and “God, if ever you were going to grow organs, please, now’s the time. The man can’t breathe. It’s not his fault”
Sounds like a good time. Do they give degrees or do you need to pray to get hired?