• HuskyRacoon@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’re correct. I feel far worse for the refugees than the billionaires in the sub. But that being said i feel awful for the 19 year old on that ship. I know i would have said yes too because how many people can say “im going on holiday to the titanic” sounds great in concept. He may have been a rich kid but still a kid.

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      He is 19, he should be old enough to come to a reasonable conclusion that his family if profiting off of the suffering of the Pakistani people. He lived overseas, far away from the problem and I bet if you find his social media pages they are full of expensive things that you would never be able to get in Pakistan.

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        He is 19, he should be old enough to come to a reasonable conclusion that his family if profiting off of the suffering of the Pakistani people.

        No, he shouldn’t be. You really have no idea what you’re talking about.

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        So it’s not ok to care that a kid died because of some nebulous idea about stuff his dad has done? I’m sure there’s at least a grain of truth in what you’ve said but that’s still a pretty toxic worldview in my opinion.

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        I’m out of the loop, can you explain what you mean when you specify Pakistani people? I’ve read very little about this incident as I think many have, only learning about it incidentally when happening across posts like this.

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          The 19 year old everyone is so sad about, his father is very high up in the leadership of the largest company in Pakistan. Most people here seem to have no clue about how impoverish countries work, but for one person/family to accumulate so much wealth when the people of that country are very poor mean they are exploiting the people and the resources of the country for their own gain.

          I don’t think people would be so upset about the young adult if this was a child from the Sachmans, or the Waltons.

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            If we’re gonna gatekeep the rationale of feeling conflicted over a young person’s death because they’ve crossed a benchmark where they’re supposed to be aware that the environment they’re a product of is exploitative and reject that, I think that benchmark should be older than 19. When I was 19 I was a fucking idiot

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              Once you are 18, you are expected to be able to take care of yourself to some degree and think for yourself. And as he comes from a very rich family, I find it hard to believe that he isn’t educated in a good school (non secondary). Should we also raise the voting age everywhere as well if all 19 year old are fucking idiots?

              • gila@lemmy.world
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                No, they should totally be allowed to vote, because they are represented by government. But it should be expected that their vote is to some degree shaped by the inherent perspective of a developing brain, which is fine.

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                  No point in having this discussion with someone who’s already blinded by hate, just because a kid was lucky enough to be born in a better family than him

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                    Sure, I don’t want to go too off-topic, but as an ‘eat the rich’ kinda guy myself, I wanna challenge my own opinions to be logically consistent.

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            I see, thank you for explaining further. Agreed with the Sachman and Walton sentiment. 19 is certainly old enough to know what your father does, and with his wealth and no doubt stellar education he could start his own cushy life without using his dad’s exploitation money.

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              Exactly! There are so many 19 year olds who are inspirational to the people around him, and he could have chosen to be one of them. But instead he was living the fancy life he wanted.