• captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      Yeah don’t campaign for or against us. Neither works. Try campaigning for or against oil, more Americans have experienced a heat wave than one of us

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        maybe campaigning for trans people won’t be a huge draw, because unlike transphobes most people don’t even have trans on the mind… but i think walz’s “mind your own damn business” does work. it’s such a great line that works for trans rights as well as reproductive rights.

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          Oh absolutely, I think that’s really the sweet spot. When you say it’s about trans people a lot of people don’t care, but when you say it’s about your right to deal with your own healthcare without government interference people really like that

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        Seriously, I have only met like five trans people in my entire life. None of them have been a burden on me in any way. People should vote on issues that actually affect their own lives.

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          Yeah, like honestly the winning move is to mention us on the side at queer events. We’re common enough that losing or gaining us can be significant especially in a primary, but what we’re asking for isn’t huge and if isn’t something so important to the average voter.

          My state didn’t have a winter last year and more and more rust keeps accumulating on our belt, maybe focus on talking about how you’re gonna bring Ohioans Union jobs and snow.

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            They have no platform and can no longer win without someone to demonize. I’m sorry that’s you.

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          Same. I just don’t get how even the most rabid redhat thinks that punching down on trans is going to help them to find healthcare, put food on the table, put their kids through school, etc…

          They effectively lost the culture war on Teh Gheyz and have moved onto trans. It seems as if in most rural areas, that would basically be about bashing on either no one, maybe one specific person, or at most a handful of people. And the qons seem to be making this a central thing…well, that, and the migrant caravans. How the hell is this even remotely a serious policy?

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            Their only policy is that you should live in fear and only they can save you. Sometimes I long for the predictable fuckery of the 80s and 90s, when the Monopoly man hung out with the Jesus freaks, but even then they were demonizing LGBT people and claiming Democrats will ruin America, it’s their only card.

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            Villifing the “other” is throwing red meat to the base. It’s an easy sell to the ignorant. And also the very first target of the Nazis. Trans people are the lowest hanging fruit for the mental midgets that make up the maga base.

            Democrats need to learn something though, because when trump is, finally, irrelevant there will be a vacuum. I don’t think it’s hard to make an appeal if you look at Bernie sanders crossover appeal and the mistakes of the Clinton’s.

            Clinton’s are called “third way democrats” designed to win back some “Reagan democrats”. Economic policies that are very similar to conservatives while relying on social justice issues for their legitimacy among the base fron the left. That left literally zero benefit and minimal consideration for working class and rural whites. It’s also why I love the pick of Walz, he speaks to this voting bloc very effectively and the way Kamala is handling the campaign, specifically shutting down the “lock him up” chants makes me think that dems are on this wavelength also.

            The case that needs to be made is something I’ve best heard described by MLK (I’ve also heard Bernie echo the same term) as “Economic Justice”. Which is basically Marxist class theories and the money aspect of “all of God’s children, being free at last.” regardless of race. Being able to judo the “out of touch liberal elites” developed under the concept of Clinton democrats into “out of touch billionaire weirdos” of Trump, Vance and Musk is something the DNC should really focus on. Easier said than done though, those weirdos have infinite firehoses of infinite bullshit.

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      I want to see this thing taken to its logical extreme. Like that war was once on the entire queer community, now they’re largely targeting trans people because the acceptance of gay men and lesbians is so widespread, pretty soon we’re going to have sitting members of congress calling for the death penalty of People Who’s Favorite Color Is Puce. We have to save the children from the evil Pucer agenda.

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        Yeah, the target just moves to whatever’s the topic of the year. Interestingly enough, it’s always Republicans doing the targeting.

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      Picking an arbitrary group to hate has strong short term returns but generally ends up in total disaster and collapse. You’d think history would make this clear.

      But man are humans fixated on short term gains.