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      We can thank Trump for commuting his sentence

      Nothing like a little abuse of power on your way out the door

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        It’s so goddamn weird and tribal. It would be like if Democratic voters defended Rod Blagojevich to the death or something.

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          Conservatives have pit themselves in a bubble where they rarely are exposed to reality. Talk Radio, Fox News, and FB all prevent them from getting a true picture of things. Ask any Conservative about the U.S. Border and they think millions of people are walking right in every day. Across all US borders it’s actually small groups and it’s about 4000 to 10000 a month coming to the border. That’s far below what it was under Trump when 160,000 were showing up.

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            If you’re from a town of 3,000, 10,000 people sounds really scary, even though it isn’t a lot of people - especially if you’re xenophobic.

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            In Seattle we have a busy road where all (I mean a lot at all times of day) of the prostitutes hang out to get business. The demographic has gotten really young and I wonder if they’re part of the missing families, they’re about the right age.

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                It’s been really bad lately though. I’ve seen 15 girls per block for about a mile and they’re really young. It’s different.

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            yeah and all the “problems” with America are soooo fucking external to them… Like they are never confronted with drag shows or LGBTQ stuff in general. They’ll say things like “you see what’s going on in San Fransico” and I’m like… NO… I don’t live there lol…

            Like they consume ONLY this nonese…

            You see it on reddits /r/conservative and other the_donald wannabe subs. They just non stop talking about gay and trans stuff and I’m in a very liberal city and literally never see any of this supposed “wokeness” or w/e they are so scared of.

            It’s like they are living in an alternative reality it’s very strange.

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      Nah, they’re great leverage with the feds when you want a plea deal.

      Yeah man I recorded the whole coup organizing effort, I just wasn’t actually part of it wink wink.

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    What delicious irony would it be if pardoning Stone led directly to a conviction for Trump.

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    You mean he was taking notes on a criminal conspiracy? Clearly someone didn’t watch The Wire.

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    Why people don’t understand that this is exactly why he was let out of jail is bafling to me. Watch the documentary on the Bush/Gore election of 2000. It’s almost a play-by-play of what happened after the 2020 election, but on a smaller scale. The dude needs to be thrown into a non-pardonable hole for the rest of his poisonous existence.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    A video obtained by MSNBC shows Donald Trump’s former political advisor Roger Stone dictating the rationale behind a plan to undermine the certification of Electoral College votes days before the outcome of the 2020 election was announced.

    On Monday, Donald Trump and 18 of his associates were indicted in a sprawling RICO case in Georgia alleging that the former president and his allies engaged in a criminal enterprise with the goal of overturning the results of the 2020 election.

    While Stone is not a defendant in the indictment, it does mention 30 unnamed unindicted co-conspirators, and focuses heavily on the plot to use fake electors to subvert the results of the vote in key battleground states.

    The day before the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, where the fake electors scheme came to its violent crescendo, Trump demanded his then-Chief of Staff Mark Meadows (who was also indicted on Monday) place a call to Stone.

    Days before the riot took place, Stone was present during a call where his aide encouraged Trump supporters and allies of the former president to “descend on the Capitol,” on Jan. 6, 2021.

    Trump pardoned Stone days before his 40 months prison sentence was set to begin, literally freeing him up to aid in his reelection effort.


    I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    Why is someone allowed to record this? At first I thought it was happening without being noticed, but then the cameraperson moves and even moves again to record the laptop screen. Wtf? Trump is famously all about avoiding a paper trail, so this seems like it would be verboten.

    ETA: this is a serious question. Can someone come up with an explanation for why this was allowed to happen?

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    Original source on MSNBC:

    https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari/watch/see-trump-vet-roger-stone-pushing-elector-plot-on-tape-beat-exclusive-190982725545

    Edit: Skip to 4m 35s for the intro to the video. Video starts at 5m 08s.

    Video was taken November 5, 2020 before the election was even called (November 7, 2020). Roger Stone can be seen with an assistant dictating a letter explaining how alternate slates of electors could be used.

    Transcribed it as best I could (pauses removed):

    Roger Stone (slowly dictating a letter his assistant is seen typing up):

    Although state officials in all 50 states must ultimately certify the results of the voting in their state, the final decision as to who the state legislatures authorize be sent to the electoral college is a decision made solely by the legislature.

    Any legislative body may decide on the basis of overwhelming evidence of fraud to send electors to the electoral college who accurately reflect the president’s legitimately victory in their state which was illegally denied him through fraud.

    We must be prepared to lobby our Republican legislatures by personal contact and by demonstrating the overwhelming will of the people in each state that this may need to happen.

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    Man, I can’t stand his smug fucking face. c/punchableface poster child.