• BertramDitore@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiment, but technically it is entirely up to Biden, and no one else. The DNC can’t just nominate whoever they want, there was a primary to determine the nominee. Most delegates that will vote for him at the convention, must vote for him. They’re required by state law to vote with the primary’s popular vote. The only way for that to change is for Biden to decide to step aside. Then the delegates would be free to vote however they wanted.

    It’s a messed up and broken system that is hard to call democratic, but internal party politics rarely are. He needs to be the bigger person and step aside. It’s pure hubris at this point for him to think he’s the only human being in a country of 300 million who could beat Trump.

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      4 months ago

      The DNC can’t just nominate whoever they want, there was a primary to determine the nominee.

      That’s not what the DNCs lawyers argued to a judge less than a decade ago…

      You’re assuming the DNC can’t just change their own rules first. Which is what the DNC is currently acting like.

      It’s not true though. They change their own rules all the time.

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        4 months ago

        You’re assuming the DNC can’t just change their own rules first.

        The DNC is a private corporation. Corporations are people too, friend.

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        4 months ago

        What the DNC lawyers say and what the general public will allow are two different things.

        If Joe doesn’t volunteer to step down, and it looks like he won’t here’s what will happen:

        1. Joe runs and loses.

        2. DNC removes Joe for Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.

        3. DNC forces both Joe and Kamala out and they lose because the voters had no say in the process.

        Really, the only way out here is for Joe to die and get replaced by Kamala who then gets the sympathy vote.

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          4 months ago

          Yeah, but polls show voters want to replace him…

          If the DNC replaced him, that’s what voters want.

          Kamala and she loses because everyone hates her.

          I’m linking this too much probably.

          But this podcast changed my mind about her. Still think she’ll be a bad president. But trump is probably the only candidate she can beat, even with the 29% approval rating. After this video I think she can beat trump.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jic_uL3-q4

          If you’re worried Kamala can’t beat Trump, watching the first half of that will make you feel a lot better about her.

          Because honestly, I can’t imagine the DNC let’s anyone else takeover.

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            4 months ago

            The polls don’t know what they want and your average voter is a moron. If they asked them “Well, what should we do?” most likely the answer would be “Well, re-run the primary!” not realizing it takes 6 months to run a primary in 50 states+DC.

            • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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              4 months ago

              The polls don’t know what they want and your average voter is a moron.

              So you think voters will do a 180 and now be upset Biden is replaced when they’ve been calling for him to be replaced?

              I don’t understand.

              There’s been no waffling in the polls, even in 2020 voters thought Biden’s age was a significant issue.

              They still do, but they used to too.

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                4 months ago

                I do, because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

                The same way the DNC forced Hillary on everyone in 2016.

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                  4 months ago

                  because they will have had no say in who replaces him.

                  I agree with that

                  But I think Biden and Hillary are the only two who can lose to trump.

                  I think if it’s not Biden it’s Kamala. If you still don’t think she can win, check out that podcast I linked you. I know podcasts suck, but it’s really fucking good and logically spells out how despite how bad Kamala is, she can still beat Trump. And like we’ve said, they agree she’s pretty much the only one the DNC would nominate