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The post Xitter web has spawned soo many ā€œesotericā€ right wing freaks, but thereā€™s no appropriate sneer-space for them. Iā€™m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged ā€œculture criticsā€ who write about everything but understand nothing. Iā€™m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. Theyā€™re inescapable at this point, yet I donā€™t see them mocked (as much as they should be)

Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldnā€™t be surgeons because they didnā€™t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I canā€™t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.

  • skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de
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    there are no real enforced requirements of accuracy, most of typical known hazards are covered by generic useless advice and everything else is just filled by ā€œno informationā€

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        itā€™s less of this and more of prop65 the size of rationalist footnote

        actual pictograms are not vibes based, there are thresholds for toxicity, flash point etc

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          You know, I would expect the at-a-glance symbolic information to be more useful just from sheer accessibility. But I never would have expected them to be more accurate and rigorous than the detailed safety sheets.

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            MSDS is a multi-page document that is mostly filled with boilerplate, but you could expect some more detailed precautions and instructions, like for example in case of HF burn apply calcium gluconate cream, use special glass for diazomethane because it can explode in contact with ground glass surface, pay special attention around whatever-class of compounds because these are potent sensitizers, or such. most of the time itā€™s not there, because people that write it never used these compounds, and people that do donā€™t read that and donā€™t need reminder after that detailed advice propagated to them via what is basically folk tales from labmates. itā€™s more useful to have a comprehensive chemical engineering handbook or similar resource (as searchable pdf) that has listed dangers for common dangerous reagents

            from that second link upthread:

            Experienced chemists know to go to sources like Saxā€™s or Bretherickā€™s for more useful advice, and tend to ignore safety data sheets entirely. But theyā€™re not really made for experienced chemists (nor, apparently, by them either). For more general users, you would want these things to do some good, or at least do no harm, but the idea of a safety data sheet that actually makes its readers less safe is really unacceptable.