• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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    5 months ago

    Pennsylvania and Michigan are the ones to watch. Biden cannot win without them. There literally is no path if Trump takes them.

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      5 months ago

      And his support for genocide has already lost him Michigan.

      Yell what you want at me, centrists.

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        What’s crazy is that your comment isn’t even endorsing any position, just stating a fact:

        Michigan has a large and diverse Muslim community and without them, Biden is unlikely to win the state.

        His policy on Israel’s war has lost him those votes, and that has been reflected in the polling since long before the debate.

        This isn’t a new development.

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          some of the vocally anti-biden members of lemmy have been really acerbic in the past and that has carried forward poorly to this date so now there is a lot of animosity towards them even as they are speaking truth.

          but yeah i’m really sad. biden’s policy on israel’s genocide cost him michigan, and his refusal to step back might just cost democrats the election. it all snowballs.

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            some of the vocally anti-biden members of lemmy have been really acerbic in the past

            And over something as insignificant as genocide.

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              Sorry man but you have been pretty verbally unkind to me in the past over things not even related to geopolitics or life/death matters. I probably fully match your positions on geopolitics but don’t expect me to relent and say those behaviors have no consequences. :(

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          What’s crazy is that your comment isn’t even endorsing any position, just stating a fact:

          I learned long ago that centrists can’t tell the difference.

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        Despite the fact that Trump openly calls Palestinians “vermin” and says that Israel isn’t exterminating them fast enough.

        While Biden naively supports Israel, not genocide directly.

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          Despite the fact that Trump openly calls Palestinians “vermin” and says that Israel isn’t exterminating them fast enough.

          Great. He’s still losing Michigan even though Trump is worse.

          While Biden naively supports Israel, not genocide directly.

          He’s openly claimed it’s not a genocide. If he doesn’t know better, well, that tracks with his debate performance.