• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works
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    5 months ago

    so the best that can be done is vote for the least fucked up option and work to improve things.

    Democrats were good at the first part, but not the second. I remember lots of Dems saying “Vote for Biden, and then we’ll hold his feet to the fire!” Well, there was no “holding his feet to the fire”, because that’s seen as enabling Trump.

    The perfect candidate/option does not exist and never will

    Yes, but there are candidates who are better, such as Jill Stein and Cornel West. You can’t vote for a perfect candidate, but you can vote for the best candidate.

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      5 months ago

      You might as well vote for Barney the dinosaur for all the good it will do.

      A vote for a candidate who cannot win is wasted.

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      5 months ago

      You need to also vote for someone who actually has a chance to win. Voting for a better candidate who realistically can’t win in elections like this were someone like Trump could win is basically handing Trump the win. His base doesn’t think for themselves, and would vote for him if he killed their family in front of them. I wish to God we had Bernie instead of Biden, but Bernie wouldn’t have won.

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        5 months ago

        I live in a blue state, so using that logic, I shouldn’t vote at all. Voting for Trump or Biden is a waste of time, because the state will go blue regardless.

        His base doesn’t think for themselves, and would vote for him if he killed their family in front of them.

        If Biden killed your family in front of you, would you still vote for him?

        I wish to God we had Bernie instead of Biden, but Bernie wouldn’t have won.

        What convinced you of this?