GitCode, a git-hosting website operated Chongqing Open-Source Co-Creation Technology Co Ltd and with technical support from CSDN and Huawei Cloud.

It is being reported that many users’ repository are being cloned and re-hosted on GitCode without explicit authorization.

There is also a thread on Ycombinator (archived link)

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    2 days ago

    It is a new “internet” archive without copyright bla bla? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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    2 days ago

    Yeah… The main thing I see here is that China (read; government , not the people, not being racist here) will take this code, they will make improvements on it, they will NOT give back. Basically like Microsoft, but now an entire country.

    Chinese government hasn’t exact had a good reputation when it comes to taking technology and not giving anything back

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      2 days ago

      Not like I’d want contributions from the chinese state programmers.
      Feels like an easy entry for state level supply chain attack.

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    2 days ago

    that could come in veery handy once microsoft wants to pull some plugs. i guess we can be grateful for the backup that is 1. not 100% in m$ hands any more then and 2nd cannot be as easy destroyed as some backups at archive.org. i actually hoped for someone with enough money to create this type of security after m$ assimilated github and thought like “does nobody see the rising danger there?” but even if china’s great fork might be more reliable than m$ over time, maybe it’s better to have your own backups of all the things you actually may need in future.

    btw did microsoft manage to get rid of the hackers that settled into their network for … how long??

    i guess they’ll tell

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    3 days ago

    Yeah, though the Chinese government isn’t doing this out of the goodness of their heart, this is what open source is about.

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    3 days ago

    I hate authoritarian regimes, but why hosting cloned repos is bad?

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      Law do not exist by itself; it’s the result of balance of power. How would you know that your State do not use illegally free software ? And if you know it, could you sue it ? Even if it’s a classified administration ?

      Apply laws Internationally is even worse. It usually depends of the imperialist relationship between States. For exemple, Facebook rules was illegal in France, but France changes it’s laws rather than sue Facebook. A decade later, the whole European Union could forte RGPD upon the GAFAM.

      China have nothing to fear in ignoring those licence, and we shouldn’t rely on it to protect our work. However we could strengthen our common defenses, through FOSS for people in the US … and maybe trade unions elsewhere.

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      3 days ago

      I do believe it’s illegal if they take a repository with a restrictive license (which includes any repository without a license), and then make it available on their own service. I think China just doesn’t care.

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        If it’s hosted in a public repo, anyone can clone it, that’s very much part of most git flows.

        What you can do with the software, how you can use it, that’s another matter, based on the licence.

        That of course assumes China will respect the copyright…

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          Sure, you can probably clone it - I’m not 100% sure, but I think laws protect that as long as it’s private use.

          You can also fork it on GitHub, that’s something you agree to in the GitHub ToS - though I think you’re not allowed to push any modifications if the license doesn’t allow it?

          Straight up taking the content from GitHub, uploading it to your own servers, and letting people grab a copy from there? That’s redistribution, and is something that needs to be permitted by the license. It doesn’t matter if it’s git or something else, in the end that’s just a way to host potentially copyrighted material.

          Though if you have some reference on why this is not the case, I’d love to see it - but I’m not gonna take a claim that “that’s very much a part of most git flows”.

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        Illegal according to who?

        The US? Why would China care, they are their own country with their own laws.

        International courts? Who is enforcing those judgments?

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    3 days ago

    Some random Chinese company: does something jenky

    Blogger: “The entire country of China is doing this jenky thing!”

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        3 days ago

        And all US companies follow US laws and crazy people say they do the bidding of CIA/NSA/FBI- which they do, to a degree.

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              3 days ago

              Might be because of our approaches?

              Your’s comes across as a sort of whatabout that nobody asked for and mine is just a statement of fact related to what you mentioned.

              It’s not inaccurate to say that the Chinese government has a tighter leash on all business in their country than the US has in theirs though.

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      3 days ago

      The random Chinese company: owned by Huawei and CSDN (where CSDN is known to be the worst site known to Chinese developers where they literally costs money to let you download open source code)