I get what you mean, but not that long ago wepages used to hijack your back button by forcing redirects to fill up the history, it is less common today, but endless scrolling sites love filling up your history.
You can bookmark a whole window full of tabs all into a single bookmark folder. It’s called “bookmark all tabs” or something like that. Then later you can open all of them again into a new window using a single button again.
I know the average person isn’t tech savvy, but this loss is almost entirely on themself. If you have 7000 tabs open and it’s important to you that they stay saved, then it’s on you to simply ASK someone if keeping them open is an ok way to do it
Why do you need to “save” a tab? If you’re never going to look at it again what is the point?
I can understand someone who has 20-30 tabs. They’ll probably go back to at least one of them. But 7000??? There is nothing to save it’s an impossible rats nest with zero organization so the likelihood of reopening even one of those tabs is virtually zero. So in this case what’s the purposing of “saving” these tabs?
Sometimes you actually do go back to those saved tabs. There’s no way to know ahead of time which tabs you’re actually gonna go back to and which you won’t, so it’s perfectly reasonable to save groups of tabs if there was a topic you were researching or whatever. Just save the tabs into a new bookmark folder with a descriptive name so you can find it later.
But with that said, 7000 is way beyond including just the things a person might ever actually want to go back to later.
firefox just remembers the url, or not? when my system crashes and firefox recovers my tabs it needs to load them all from their respective servers first, so it seems like it’s not “saving” the page on exit
I have a practical but niche answer to this. This is actually a bit of a wall of text but tldr:
Not quite a power-user. Got 1.5k tabs, Bookmarks and Browser history lack proper system and contextual integration, are a poor experience to review, navigate, categorize for me, and many integrations make tabs effortless to work with, group up, and accumulate. Looking a bit into other systems and I can definitely see benefits but what I have works pretty well for me.
I’m not as much of a poweruser but I generally will have between 800 and 1,500 tabs open on my desktop with Floorp which is a Firefox fork with native web app support and a bunch of neat customization features.
This is mainly because I find history and bookmarking features to be rather inconvenient to maintain especially for deep internet rabbitholes and complex projects that can have multiple topics or differing levels of priority to reference.
Firefox and Floorp allow users to instantly search through their tabs using the search bar and this tends to be very helpful although I also will like to have older versions of websites cached or loaded locally so I can make comparisons, review through collections of tasks and their related segments which I have previously worked on, or see how homepages and different segments of the web have adapted as a whole or personalized for me over time. I can basically have my own pocket of the Internet curated for me which I don’t need to go out of my way to find or maintain.
Now something to note is that it’s a surprisingly efficient process, Most of the tabs themselves don’t need to actually be active in memory with the browser in total generally using less than 8 gigabytes of ram and under 10% of my cpu when active. I have plenty of tab management extensions, Floorp provides a scroll bar at the top for multi-row tabs, Flow Launcher (ridiculously powerful search tool which can be run as a system-wide programmable hotkey.) within Windows has integration both for checking existing tabs and instantly opening new ones. It’s pretty slick except when my browser is first rebuilding after a full reboot as that can take around two minutes to complete from disk.
I think the main thing at least for me is just that other resources and tools (Been looking into the raindrop bookmark manager.) might be more efficient for me to learn in the long run but I tend to be working on dozens of projects at once anyways and actively going out of my way to adapt to a new system like that would be counterproductive in the moment where it counts.
Hope this has been a helpful and insightful look into my process. I could probably attach screenshots or video later although I feel like this is sufficient as-is.
Yeah I don’t really get it but it seems like it’s not that uncommon to have heaps of tabs open. More than 7,000 is obviously exceptional but it checks out - there’s a few users like this in mozilla’s telemetry.
I think it’s basically just concern that you might not be able to find your way back to something you were looking at before. To me that seems irrational but everyone needs to sail their own ship I guess.
There’s a tool I use at work for administrating Apple devices and it opens about four tabs for every profile you look at. You can quickly stack up to about 50 tabs. Utterly stupid programming.
But I’m not using it I have maybe 12 tabs open at a time.
who does that?!
How can it be in any way useful to keep 7000 open tabs?
Has she not heard of bookmarks?
I am thoroughly confused
The article explains that she likes to look at tabs in the past as a reminder of something she was interested in.
It’s sort of a snapshot in time. I get it. But hell no I’m closing tabs.
“Look, just add in an option to re-enable spacebar heating.”
https://xkcd.com/1172/
Meanwhile no one considers whatever happened to DenverCoder9
Man if only firefox had some kinda feature that you could see your previous activity. Something akin to a history of what you did in the browser.
I get what you mean, but not that long ago wepages used to hijack your back button by forcing redirects to fill up the history, it is less common today, but endless scrolling sites love filling up your history.
You can bookmark a whole window full of tabs all into a single bookmark folder. It’s called “bookmark all tabs” or something like that. Then later you can open all of them again into a new window using a single button again.
I know the average person isn’t tech savvy, but this loss is almost entirely on themself. If you have 7000 tabs open and it’s important to you that they stay saved, then it’s on you to simply ASK someone if keeping them open is an ok way to do it
This is hoarder behaviour, so I wouldn’t expect it to make sense as a general statement
See my other comment reply above. I don’t know how to get a direct link to a comment on lemmy
Why do you need to “save” a tab? If you’re never going to look at it again what is the point?
I can understand someone who has 20-30 tabs. They’ll probably go back to at least one of them. But 7000??? There is nothing to save it’s an impossible rats nest with zero organization so the likelihood of reopening even one of those tabs is virtually zero. So in this case what’s the purposing of “saving” these tabs?
Sometimes you actually do go back to those saved tabs. There’s no way to know ahead of time which tabs you’re actually gonna go back to and which you won’t, so it’s perfectly reasonable to save groups of tabs if there was a topic you were researching or whatever. Just save the tabs into a new bookmark folder with a descriptive name so you can find it later.
But with that said, 7000 is way beyond including just the things a person might ever actually want to go back to later.
I have 4 virtual desktops, usually each with their own Firefox instance. I still have less than 10 tabs open.
YOU DON’T NEED THAT MANY TABS
How do you deal with Firefox updates?
I type
yayAt that point, just use archivebox instead.
Self-hosted Archive.org? Neat
Or maybe her browser history
True, but my understanding is that she wanted to save the pages how they were when she found them.
firefox just remembers the url, or not? when my system crashes and firefox recovers my tabs it needs to load them all from their respective servers first, so it seems like it’s not “saving” the page on exit
Yeah, I’m talking about archivebox, not necessarily Firefox alone.
I have a practical but niche answer to this. This is actually a bit of a wall of text but tldr: Not quite a power-user. Got 1.5k tabs, Bookmarks and Browser history lack proper system and contextual integration, are a poor experience to review, navigate, categorize for me, and many integrations make tabs effortless to work with, group up, and accumulate. Looking a bit into other systems and I can definitely see benefits but what I have works pretty well for me.
I’m not as much of a poweruser but I generally will have between 800 and 1,500 tabs open on my desktop with Floorp which is a Firefox fork with native web app support and a bunch of neat customization features. This is mainly because I find history and bookmarking features to be rather inconvenient to maintain especially for deep internet rabbitholes and complex projects that can have multiple topics or differing levels of priority to reference. Firefox and Floorp allow users to instantly search through their tabs using the search bar and this tends to be very helpful although I also will like to have older versions of websites cached or loaded locally so I can make comparisons, review through collections of tasks and their related segments which I have previously worked on, or see how homepages and different segments of the web have adapted as a whole or personalized for me over time. I can basically have my own pocket of the Internet curated for me which I don’t need to go out of my way to find or maintain.
Now something to note is that it’s a surprisingly efficient process, Most of the tabs themselves don’t need to actually be active in memory with the browser in total generally using less than 8 gigabytes of ram and under 10% of my cpu when active. I have plenty of tab management extensions, Floorp provides a scroll bar at the top for multi-row tabs, Flow Launcher (ridiculously powerful search tool which can be run as a system-wide programmable hotkey.) within Windows has integration both for checking existing tabs and instantly opening new ones. It’s pretty slick except when my browser is first rebuilding after a full reboot as that can take around two minutes to complete from disk.
I think the main thing at least for me is just that other resources and tools (Been looking into the raindrop bookmark manager.) might be more efficient for me to learn in the long run but I tend to be working on dozens of projects at once anyways and actively going out of my way to adapt to a new system like that would be counterproductive in the moment where it counts.
Hope this has been a helpful and insightful look into my process. I could probably attach screenshots or video later although I feel like this is sufficient as-is.
Yeah I don’t really get it but it seems like it’s not that uncommon to have heaps of tabs open. More than 7,000 is obviously exceptional but it checks out - there’s a few users like this in mozilla’s telemetry.
I think it’s basically just concern that you might not be able to find your way back to something you were looking at before. To me that seems irrational but everyone needs to sail their own ship I guess.
There’s a tool I use at work for administrating Apple devices and it opens about four tabs for every profile you look at. You can quickly stack up to about 50 tabs. Utterly stupid programming.
But I’m not using it I have maybe 12 tabs open at a time.
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