• Ukraine destroyed columns of waiting Russian soldiers with HIMARS, a Ukrainian commander said.
  • He said Ukraine targeted them as soon as it got permission to use allied weapons across the border.
  • Military experts say Ukraine’s ability to use Western-supplied weapons in Russia is aiding its fightback.
  • vortic@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    I don’t think the person you were replying to was cheering for killing Russian civilians. I think they were cheering for killing Russian troops and that it would make Russian civilians understand the horrors of war.

    That said, given what Russia has done to Ukraine, I think I would root for some destruction inside Russia. Russia has been pretty indescriminate. Maybe if Russia sees what that is like they will want to back off the war.

    Even if Ukraine does start bombing inside Russia, it’s COMPLETELY different from the indescriminate destruction and killing in Gaza. They are on different scales. Israel is committing an intentional genocide. Ukraine is fighting to survive. Israel is killing everyone, women and children included. Ukraine is, so far, largely confined to killing Russian troops.

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      5 days ago

      Ukraine is fighting to survive.

      Yes that’s what Hamas is doing. They are in a far more precarious spot than Ukraine too. Israel was committing Genocide in Gaza far before Oct7. Which makes the comparison wrong.

      Russia is comparable to israel. Invading and annexing land by killing people. Hamas is the party resisting occupation just like Ukraine.

      If we put the double standards away everyone would start condemning Ukraine right now like they were/are condemning Hamas. Using cluster munitions on civilians is not a great look. What’s different? How the media sells the story?

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        Who’s using cluster munitions on civilians? The missile was intercepted on the way to it’s actual target. They weren’t targeting that beach

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          That might be what happened. But as we see the cluster bombs did not explode during interception. Instead they landed all over a beach of people on annexation vacation. There’s a reason why cluster bombs are banned.

          But in any case. These are the “horrors of war” which the original commenter was hoping Russian civilians would be seeing no?

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              https://disarmament.unoda.org/convention-on-cluster-munitions/

              The Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM) prohibits under any circumstances the use, development, production, acquisition, stockpiling and transfer of cluster munitions, as well as the assistance or encouragement of anyone to engage in prohibited activities. The text of the Convention is available for download in the six official UN languages: عربي, 中文, English, français, русский, español.

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                They even provided a link to signatories of the convention in your link for you to peruse.

                Surprise, Neither the US, Ukraine, nor Russia are signatories.

                So not a warcrime for any party in this situation

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                5 days ago

                You’re one link click away from understanding why your message is stupid. Question is whether it’s message alone.