• Leviathan@lemmy.world
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    6 天前

    I Always thought he just wanted to flush xitter, it never occurred to me that he was actually trying to succeed.

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      I think he was trying to dump Tesla stock without making it look like he didn’t have faith in the company. His plan was always to say he was buying it. sell a bunch of Tesla stock. Back out of the Twitter deal and walk away with a ton of cash.

      He tried to get out of it based on a bunch of bullshit and then was surprised when a judge actually forced him to buy Twitter.

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        6 天前

        Now he wants shareholders to give him stock as he demands 25% of ownership plus he wants 56 billion payout. Meanwhile he’s firing whole departments.

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    6 天前

    I can’t find the exact quote right now, but I saw in another article he said something like, “If they don’t pay for advertisements, X will be gone. How sad!”

    It seems Musk thinks he’s tending another Mona Lisa or some other world cultural artifact that society would hate to lose. Not some website that’s fairly easily recreated by, say, a bunch of hobbyists.

  • m13@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    "I do shoot myself in the foot from time to time, but at least you know it is genuine, not from the PR department”

    Yeah we know. He’s genuinely a white supremacist, misogynist, queerphobe piece of shit. A PR department doesn’t give a fuck about any of that, but at least they’d be savvy enough to pretend like they give a damn in order to make money.

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        6 天前

        Someone who is not misogynistic doesn’t usually offer to pay for sex with someone who isn’t a sex worker. That he offered to pay for said sex with a horse makes it extra damning, but that could be my personal bias.

      • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
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        6 天前

        He made “cis” a slur on Twitter because it upsets him that his ex who left him is trans, and he hates trans people. He’s had plenty of tweets and posts complaining about pronouns, trans people in general, and so on.

        I can’t speak to the misogyny (but I’m sure it’s there), but instead if arguing with people about you “jUsT aSkInG a QuEsTiOn” you could just Google “Elon Musk queerphobic tweets” and Google will supply plenty.

        I did, and the first two results were articles from former Twitter/X employees claiming there were homophobic and anti-semitic attacks on the platform after Musk took over. So yeah… Not sure what you want anyone here to do for you that you can’t do yourself via a Google search, you clearly know how to type, and the phrase I suggested is less characters than all your comments combined.

        Edit: And then after you did some googling and found the answers, you could edit your comment to say, “Wow, hey guys, I was wrong, he really is misogynistic queerphobic piece of shit,” and be done with it, instead of doubling down like a troll.

        • dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          6 天前

          im not really interested in claims by others about him. If he’s so misogynistic, I’m sure he made these remarks himself, too. (And FYI, I specifically asked for remarks he made himself, not claims about him.) I was just asking because I haven’t seen any, which is quite normal when it’s about other topics. But I guess when it comes to these ones, it’s considered being a troll. Think whatever you think but that doesn’t hold water. Especially nowadays everyone is spewing a lot of bs, so it’s only natural to be skeptic then as well.

          • BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world
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            6 天前

            I’m not really interested in your bullshit anymore. There are tweets, from him. There are articles about him quoting tweets he’s used highlighting everything everyone here us telling you. Fucking happy? Can you fucking comprehend now? They’re his words, from his official verified X account.

            “FYI I specifically asked for” GO FUCK YOURSELF. I specifically told you to fucking use your fucking brain and Google all of this, but you refuse, because you’re a fucking troll just like Musk, whose cock you have so far down your throat it’s tickling your taint.

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              I haven’t yet looked at them all but some of these are so retarded that I question your sincerity or sanity. E.g. How is saying “definitely attacked misleading journalism like yours though” considered sexist? This is beyond retarded.

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                That’s not the sexist part, you have to read more. One Tweet can’t prove anything, but several Tweets are a clear pattern of behavior. Quoting the first sentence betrays your disinterest.

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                6 天前

                THERE IT IS EVERYONE!!! Troll can’t be happy unless they’re moving the goal posts, now they need thorough context for each and every word Musk has ever said!!

                To answer your question, despite you not asking it in good faith and then following it up with two uses of the R-slur: A female journalist raised legitimate criticism of Musk, and he completely disregarded everything she had to say. That’s childish, and misogynist, since I’m sure if Daddy Trump or Papa Putin weighed criticism on him, he wouldn’t have dismissed it.

                So I answered your fucking question and gave you “sPeCiFicAlLy” what you asked for, so you’re fucking welcome, troll, not that you know how to say “thank you.”

                And reported for use of the R-slur.

      • Censored@lemmy.world
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        6 天前

        Yes, you’re getting downvoted for asking a stupid question. Do you think people announce “I am a queerphobe and a misogynst”? Read between the fucking lines!

        • dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          6 天前

          I am not saying that he is not queerphobic or misogynistic. I just said that I haven’t seen it, and asked if anyone would be so kind of pointing it to me. Chill out dude lol

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            It’s actually worse than you being incapable of reading between the lines. When presented with evidence, you denied it rather than thanking the person who provided it. So you were asking stupid questions to set up a bad faith argument. Congratulations on being an Elon dick sucker and douchbag.

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              and rather than you specifically talking about an example that I misinterpreted, you say I “deny evidence”. Why won’t you mention something specific that I missed or misinterpreted (in article).

              But again, back to what you said about me “asking a stupid question” how in the actual fuck does this work? Who is setting up “bad faith” ? The one asking a question? Omfg

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                6 天前

                Yes, it’s called JAQ’ing off or Sealioning and is how people try to push an idea while still being able to say “oh no not me I’m just curious.”

                If you were actually curious you’d google it, or been aware of his descent over the last 5 years.

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        6 天前

        I think you’re getting downvoted because everyone assumes that you’re being a pedant, not because your asked a question.

          • Maple Engineer@lemmy.world
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            6 天前

            I think it was the phrasing. The comment you responded to didn’t say that Musk had said either of the things you asked about. If you’ve been paying attention to the news about the complaints coming out of his companies its very clear that he is those things. It seems that your question is intended to refute the contents of the comment by being pedantic about whether Musk had actually said those things.

            • dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              right, all fair. But nowadays everybody is spewing up nonsense, so it’s only natural to stop and ask why/how. Sure, I could search the web, but I’m talking about the principle. If spewing shit is okay, then questioning it should also be okay, obviously.

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                It just sounded a little bit like you were jumping to his defense. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and explained it but I think that’s what happened. There are a LOT of pedants on Lemmy who will argue about whether someone said a specific word of phrase rather than addressing the underlying and obvious truth that someone is a wretched asshole (like Elon Musk.))

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              idk man, in the article I find what he said is:

              -The “sexist joke” by saying “TITS” is just a dumb joke, not “misogynistic”.

              -The “Pronouns suck” comment, is weird and just vague, and not necessarily queerphobic. Maybe he just doesn’t like changing the standard language much. It doesn’t necessarily say he will purposely use the wrong pronoun on people, in practice. Too vague to work with.

              -Calling Warren “Karren Warren” and saying “You remind me of when I was a kid and my friend’s angry Mom would just randomly yell at everyone for no reason”. I guess maybe this can be considered misogynistic, but I’d by far attribute this to just “being rude”, because he just insults her for her actions. Just because this insult is a comparison to another woman that acted hysterically, does not make it misogynistic. Yes, the “Karen” is generally a sex-specific insult, but again, this can also be taken as just an insult in general.

              Yeah sure there could be more examples, but going from the link you posted, there is barely anything to call him misogynistic, let alone queerphobic. I don’t care who he is, I’d have said this to anyone who said these things.

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                He’s literally using the wrong pronouns and name for his transgender daughter. He’s literally said he agrees with JK Rowling’s transphobic comments.

                You know how after a certain time has passed it’s no longer a spoiler to talk about how Vader is Luke’s father? Well, there’s certain stuff that’s so obvious and widely known that people will stop believing that you don’t know about it and will assume you’re trolling.The fact that you keep insisting that you haven’t seen evidence of him being queerphobe is on you at this point, imo.

                • dysprosium@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  The fact that you keep insisting that you haven’t seen evidence of him being queerphobe is on you at this point

                  I wholeheartedly agree, it’s just that I haven’t seen it, and that doesn’t mean he is NOT queerphobic. I was simply asking questions. If you don’t like that, what can I do about that?

  • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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    7 天前

    Apparenlty telling your customers to go fuck themselves isn’t a good business strategy.

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    Oh, so telling advertisers to go fuck themselves DIDN’T help Twitter make money? 🤔

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    Elon, I got some butterscotch in my pockets. They are nice and warm too…Why don’t you reach in there and grab ya a couple?

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    Anyone could be a CEO if this douche nozzle can. And for like 6-7 different corporations.

    What do you say you do here elon?

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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      Disagree. You have to be completely devoid of morals and ethics to be a CEO. Empathy too. Most of us have those things on at least some level.

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        Only to be CEO of a massive capitalist company.

        I’ve heard a few tales of some CEO’s (of very small companies) here in the Nordics actually being generous to their employees. Like it’s most definitely a rarity, but I believe it is possible.

        Like a CEO who values profits but values employees and paying their fair share more and isn’t blinded by greed and addicted to money. A socialist, literally. A market socialist, but a socialist nonetheless.

        Everyone could have their basic needs met, and we could still have rich people. Just not filthy rich, not “rich-to-the-point-no-one-else-has-anything” rich.

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      He just got approved for that big $40+ billion compensation package from Tesla so he’s got lots to work with.

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        To me it’s mental that stock holders would approve such package when company itself for its entire existence had income that is smaller than his “bonus”. Some people are downright stupid.

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          Theyre wealthy not smart. The smart wealthy ones fade into obscurity, like Tom or that one distant uncle who lives in a cabin in the woods and juat kinda vibes.

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        Don’t worry, he seems hard at work making sure all that Tesla stock he got will also be worth less everyday.

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        A single billion is an obscene amount of money for an individual, I can’t fathom how anyone can be worth/earn a billion in a couple of years.

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        What’s absolutely insane to me, is that other CEOs think that’s fair and fine and that Elon is very smart and not a con artist? No wonder Elizabeth Holmes got so far. It’s just so obvious he’s not above board