Some conservatives want to make it a lot harder to dissolve a marriage.

Before the 1960s, it was really hard to get divorced in America.

Typically, the only way to do it was to convince a judge that your spouse had committed some form of wrongdoing, like adultery, abandonment, or ā€œcrueltyā€ (that is, abuse). This could be difficult: ā€œEven if you could prove you had been hit, that didnā€™t necessarily mean it rose to the level of cruelty that justified a divorce,ā€ saidĀ Marcia Zug, a family law professor at the University of South Carolina.

Then came a revolution: In 1969, then-Gov. Ronald Reagan of California (who was himself divorced) signedĀ the nationā€™s first no-fault divorce law, allowing people to end their marriages without proving theyā€™d been wronged. The move was a recognition that ā€œpeople were going to get out of marriages,ā€ Zug said, and gave them a way to do that withoutĀ resorting to subterfuge. Similar laws soon swept the country, and rates ofĀ domestic violence and spousal murderĀ began to drop as people ā€” especially women ā€” gained more freedom to leave dangerous situations.

Today, however, a counter-revolution is brewing:Ā Conservative commentatorsĀ andĀ lawmakersĀ are calling for an end to no-fault divorce, arguing that it has harmed men and even destroyed the fabric of society. Oklahoma state Sen. Dusty Deevers, for example,Ā introduced a billĀ in January to ban his stateā€™s version of no-fault divorce. The Texas Republican Party added a call to end the practice to itsĀ 2022 platformĀ (the plank is preserved inĀ the 2024 version). Federal lawmakers like Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) andĀ House Speaker Mike Johnson, as well as former Housing and Urban Development SecretaryĀ Ben Carson, have spoken out in favor of tightening divorce laws.

  • kava@lemmy.world
    25Ā·
    5 months ago

    Republicans today are not the same as Republicans back then. Reagan did more for illegal immigrants than any president since. Iā€™d vote for him in a heartbeat if it was him versus the two bad jokes currently campaigning.

    • Jomega@lemmy.world
      181Ā·
      5 months ago

      He also ignored the AIDS epidemic on purpose, leaving thousands to die simply because he didnā€™t like gay people.

        • Jomega@lemmy.world
          41Ā·
          5 months ago

          Ten thousand premeditated murders via deliberate inaction is not balanced out by a million visas granted. The severity of the crime gives it more weight. A life extinguished does not equal a life improved somewhat.

          • kava@lemmy.world
            2Ā·
            5 months ago

            I understand and ultimately itā€™s impossible to quantify and compare these things. Iā€™m not trying to defend his AIDs policies. I just grew up as an illegal and I understand what itā€™s like living in fear.

            You see a police officer and you immediately get a flight or fight response. You need to find roundabout ways to get jobs, finance a car, or rent apartments. You never know if ICE will just show up to your house one day. Or if you pick up a family member from the airport and they ask for your papers (my old boss got deported that way. His girlfriendā€™s niece came to stay a week. He went to pick her up. CBP was waiting with her to get documents from whoever came to pick her up)

            You have to pay taxes but you donā€™t get to apply for things everyone else does. You wanna go to community College? Tough shit, you donā€™t qualify for instate tuition so youā€™re paying 3x the normal price. Even if youā€™ve lived there for 15 years and did your entire elementary / high school in the state. Youā€™re American in all ways except one- documents

            Etc etc

            There are over 10 million, I think around 13 million people living just like that.

            And Trump is awful. But Biden pretended like he would do something, he promised immigration reform. Promised to halt construction of the wall. Instead he expands construction and the next day does a photoshoot at the border with CBP. Month or two ago he actually used the term ā€œillegalsā€

            Which in my opinion isnā€™t a big deal but for a lot of people showed how far right he has shifted

            Thatā€™s why I brought up Reagan. He gave millions of illegals amnesty and essentially removed a constant anxiety and lifted up a people that were all hiding in the shadows.

            No president has done anything like that. Obama is probably second place because of DACA. I would vote for him again in a heartbeat.

            So yeah I understand Reagan did the AIDs thing not trying to diminish it although we are essentially picking between people who have all done awful things. Biden went and publicly bent the knee to Israel at the start of their invasion. Trump I donā€™t think I even need to elaborate on