TL;DR

  • Strings in the latest Android 15 beta suggest the OS can automatically delete biometrics that aren’t working well.
  • Android will delete your face or fingerprint unlock when they aren’t working well and then prompt you to set them up again.
  • We don’t know how the OS determines when a biometric isn’t working well or if this feature is even live yet in the latest Android 15 beta, though.
  • limerod@reddthat.comOPM
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 months ago

    Yeah, lol. Who has the time to type a passcode or pattern unlock when a single click or glance can unlock your phone within a second.

    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      5 months ago

      The legal precedents that have been set in this area basically boil down to this: if the police could unlock your phone while you were unconscious (e.g. by placing your finger on it or pointing it at your face) then they are allowed to do so.

      You cannot be legally compelled to reveal your password or unlock a device with your password. Obviously you could be forced anyway, but evidence collected this way would be inadmissable in court.

    • ryannathans
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      5 months ago

      Police and airport staff almost everywhere are able to force you to unlock your phone if it uses biometrics but not patterns/passwords

      • smeg@feddit.uk
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        5 months ago

        If you’re concerned that might be about to happen you could just hold the power button until it shuts down or reboots, Android always asks for the password at boot AFAIK

      • limerod@reddthat.comOPM
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        5 months ago

        Should it arrive to that they can still seize your devices and also force you to unlock your devices biometrics or patterns/passwords regardless. I wouldn’t trust law enforcements in this regard.

      • littlewonder@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        5 months ago

        PSA: Stock Android phones, since… maybe Android 12.x or so(?), have a Lockdown mode in the power button shortcut menu that disables bio unlocks and forces pin or password.

      • 30p87@feddit.de
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        5 months ago

        I just stay away from countries where they have the authority to do that.

      • Tywèle [she|her]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        3
        ·
        5 months ago

        I never had contact with police or airport staff where they wanted me to unlock my phone. And I doubt that this will happen anytime soon if ever.

        • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          edit-2
          5 months ago

          It’s not a problem, until it is a problem.

          “It hasn’t happened yet” is not a valid basis for making decisions.

              • ladfrombrad 🇬🇧@lemdro.idM
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                7
                arrow-down
                2
                ·
                5 months ago

                Because generally the TSA in Yankland are overly aggressive, but to be fair it can happen anywhere and here in the UK if they snag you into the backroom and want to search your phone you’re screwed either way since they, can.