• я не из калининграда@lemmy.mlOP
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      5 months ago

      we have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror. but the royal terrorists, the terrorists by the grace of god and the law, are in practice brutal, disdainful, and mean, in theory cowardly, secretive, and deceitful, and in both respects disreputable.

      karl marx

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        5 months ago

        What does that have to do with “anti-authoritarians”. Sounds a bit like too much Engels to me.

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          Typical Stalinism/Maoism: Anyone who opposes my implementation of Marxism is an enemy of the proletariat and can be persecuted to any extent. These people agree with the mainstream idea that communism can’t be implemented democratically, but come to the conclusion that democracy must be abolished.

          This meme is an open dogwhistle to tankies and thankfully meaningless to anyone who hasn’t fallen into or interacted with this small subsection of the far-left.

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                  The kind that rails on “anti authoritarianism”? Or do you have a charitable interpretation of “authoritarianism” that is somehow compatible with democracy?

                  I also fail to see what any of that has to do with capitalism, which I have neither defended nor mentioned yet you brought up.

                  Goddam arguing with tankies and their endless litany of non-sequiturs is such a pointless exercise.

                  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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                    Do you have evidence of Marx and Engels, both who railed against so-called “anti-authoritarians,” saying that “Democracy must be abolished?” Do you have evidence of Marxists who followed them saying “Democracy must be abolished” either? I do not believe you will.

                    What I do see is Communists advocating for the destruction of Capitalism and the structures that support it, replacing them with proletarian democracy.

                    It isn’t a non-sequitor, your point itself was a strawman that doesn’t exist.

                  • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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                    5 months ago

                    I love how being unable to make a coherent argument you go on bleating about tankies. If you admit that capitalism is not a democracy for the majority, then what democracy is being abolished?

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            Most communists are some branch of ML, even moreso if you exclude the imperial core. The CPC has over 100 million members.

            You are the fringe subsection of the left.