I’m a conservative. I don’t mind the liberal stuff here. It’s good to learn the other side, but I don’t want a liberal echo chamber. I’d like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?

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    funny how every time conservatives group up, their communities become so toxic, full of hate and conspiracies, that people have no choice but to cut ties lol

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      Woah, woah, there… Telling all the trannies and colored folks to die is their protected free speech rights. How dare you cancel them.

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        they’d thrive on 4chan. i recommend OP go there. that’s a breeding ground for this ideology. they can enjoy all the loli, nazi, and “n***er” rekt gore threads they desire

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          I have to ask, what do lolis have to do with the rest? I can’t say I’m a fan but I feel like I’ve missed a memo.

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            4chan has a shiiiit ton of loli threads, sometimes containing real cp unfortunately, and some ai generated realistic cp. and, 4chan is a cesspool of alt right cunts. they are the ones proudly producing the threads

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              Just on /b/ for that.

              /pol/ is the serious fascist breeding ground. I step in occasionally just to see what talking point these guys are going to be drumming in the mainstream in 3 to 6 months. It bleeds over everywhere else on 4chan so there’s a high overlap, but people on /b/ are surprisingly varied (if universally idiots, but I guess that’s kind of the point).

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                both are disgusting cesspits. i see no variation on /b/. its all loli, rekt, nazi threads, andy biersack, and porn

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      It’s because their political leader at the moment is a populist. They can’t help but be a bunch of cunts. Monkey see money do kind of thing.

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        Here’s an unpopular opinion. I saw a lot of the same elements in the Bernie crowd. Not for taking peoples rights or anything illegal like that mind you, but they were very quick to want to ignore the rules during the primary to throw out the choice of the Democratic majority in order to have Bernie win over Hillary. To this day I still hear conspiracy theory talking points about how Bernie really won, or how he was winning the real polls, etc. it’s the same populist rhetoric and it’s dangerous.

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          Yeah, but how often did Bernie himself repeat those conspiracy theories? Did he ever try to violently overturn the Democratic primary results? Every popular person has some shitty supporters, so you can’t just judge people based on their supporters.

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            Bernie never said anything to my knowledge, which is why I said the Bernie Crowd. It was limited to a chunk of his fan base that discussed ignoring primary results and awarding delegates to Bernie. Violent or Non-Violent wasn’t the point. The rules were set before the primary, and Bernie lost. Any attempt at discussion of anything regarding overturning that result is overturning democracy. That was scary to read. You don’t think that would ever turn into a coup attempt, but It’s enough to have made me uncomfortable.

            I only blame Bernie as much as his populist rhetoric misleads people. Nothing actually happened, and I don’t believe he would have stood for it if it did.

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          Yeah, but how often did Bernie himself repeat those conspiracy theories? Did he ever try to violently overturn the Democratic primary results? Every popular person has some shitty supporters, so you can’t just judge people based on their supporters.

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      You want to see a toxic community? Check out politics on this very instance. It’s one gigantic toxic far left “progressive” circle jerk echo chamber. Anyone that says anything not straight out of the official democrat approved talking points playbook is brigaded and called a nazi/fascist/bigot.

      Both far sides are as toxic as each other. What OP wants, and what I think many would like, is a community that wasn’t hostile to either side, and that’s up to the mods and the users. Unfortunately the installed mods don’t want any part in nuanced conversation, they want a circle jerk for their ideologies.

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      Have you seen all the comments on this thread?

      Instead of answering the OPs question, 100+ people are just bashing him for thinking differently, saying stuff like “Well, why are you conservative in the first place? Conservatism is so stupid! People on the right are evil, monsters, etc.”

      This left wing echo chamber is already very hateful and against any differing opinions.

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        It’s not “thinking differently” it’s “the beliefs necessary to maintain that political stance are stupid and cruel”.

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          So thinking that biological males shouldn’t compete against biological females means your beliefs are stupid and cruel? Believing that all people should have the right to voice their opinions without being censored is “stupid and cruel”?

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            Which one is the party banning books right now? You’re a lying disingenuous shitbag and this is why your conservatism isn’t respected.

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              No one is banning books. What is happening is people are calling for books to be restricted to people of the appropriate age. No 10 year old should be reading a book telling them how to have anal and oral sex. Why on earth would you think that is ok? Why do you think they should be given access to and in some cases forced to read that?

              Thanks for the insults though, very mature and intelligent of you.

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          Not every conservative is a racist nazi. Some of us just want the government to stick to doing what’s in the constitution.

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            So then how can you possibly agree with the right? Is banning books in the Constitution?

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            Westerners, especially Americans, have a really really hard time believing that you can be socially one thing and governmentally/economically another. For instance Im radically socially leftist but economically libertarian.

            Because Americans have been force fed the lie that you have to pick one size fits all, they assume that every conservative is also socially conservative. Which, in the case of America, means you support the wild anti lgbt/anti abortion legislation.

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        I agree. The way I worded my comment was very intentional to not bash conservatism. I don’t consider myself one but I thought OP’s question was pretty respectful and I do find it unfortunate that he doesn’t have a community on here that isn’t extremely radicalized.

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          Yeah, it’s a shame that people can’t be more civil and respectful to each other.