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      • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        42·
        5 months ago

        thats probably because he wasnt used to saying them when he was younger

        also people’s mental health varies and your dad might still have better mental health

        • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          134·
          5 months ago

          It seems ableist to assume someone’s mental health is what causes homophobia

          My grandpa had dementia when he died and thought I was his brother, and I also never heard him say queerphobic words

          • Audrey0nne@leminal.space
            26·
            5 months ago

            This is just bad science. Did your dad and grandad also speak multiple languages and belong to an organization that has splintered into factions, some of which whose purpose is to try to destroy all good will and faith built with marginalized communities?

            My mom at least speaks multiple languages and for over 20 years of knowing English she thought that maggot was the slur and the word with the hard f sound that rhymes with maggot was the acceptable one to say. It wasn’t until I corrected her behavior did she actually know it was wrong. She will still drop the f-word because the word association has been long since made but at least she apologizes and corrects herself now.

            See now we have conflicting anecdotes and the glaring question gets ignored.

            Cui bono?

            • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              95·
              5 months ago

              Nice job trying to excuse and downplay homophobia. I’m old as fuck, and we’ve known for a very long time these words were harmful. If your family just accepted the norm at the time and upheld a status quo that harmed and erased queer people, and then never changed to the point that they would just stop, then fuck them. They’re bigots, and they’re not good people.

              And yes, I have family who speak English, Spanish, Korean, Swedish, and Norwegian, and only the completely dogshit ones who I’d never claim or associate with are bigots.

              Fuck the pope, and fuck everyone who’s making excuses for him being a bigot.

              • Audrey0nne@leminal.space
                24·
                5 months ago

                Only been about 20 years since the push against using slurs. It’s shocking now to watch movies from 2010 and earlier because it’s so prevalent. How far we’ve come as far as respecting other people really obscures how long it really has been.

                Really was an honest mistake, I didn’t find out she had mixed up the slur and word for larva of order Diptera until I audited her teaching class. The other educator with me didn’t even react and told me she had been doing it for as long as she knew her. Not her students, not the parents or other teachers ever bothered to correct her. She loved teaching about the life cycle of flies but her fear of accidentally slipping a slur killed that passion.

                I’m not apologizing for the pope nor bigots at large. Just saying that there are circumstances in which someone who appears to be one thing isn’t, and you should be suspicious of being told what someone else looks like if you can’t see for yourself.

      • sudneo@lemm.ee
        65·
        5 months ago

        Tbh the word he used is not that bad, or at least is used in many contexts in informal conversation, but only in very few I would consider it a “slur”. I wouldn’t say it translates well to English.

          • sudneo@lemm.ee
            32·
            5 months ago

            Pope dying unfortunately only means another one will come. I wish it was this easy…

              • sudneo@lemm.ee
                52·
                5 months ago

                Dude I am from Rome, I want to see the Vatican in flames since way before people got upset from a very small thing among the many more serious reasons.

                Few months ago when the Pope made timid openings to the LGBTQ community he was celebrated as a revolutionary. I am just saying, the word itself is not that bad and if this is the reason you feel such anger, and not the fact that the Church is an institution who did so many atrocious things (instituzionalized misogyny and homophobia among the many), then your judgment is just poor and you are getting angry for the wrong reason.

                • LinkOpensChest.wav@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                  26·
                  5 months ago

                  Yikes. Lecturing a gay person about how homophobia is not a big deal is not a good look.

                  And idgaf where you’re from, homophobe. You’re a gross and disgusting person.

                  If you live in Rome, maybe you can [redacted] the pope, who is a queerphobe. I’ve never celebrated him. I’d never celebrate that ghoul or his organized hate group with all its brainwashed fools

  • kamenLady.@lemmy.world
    171·
    5 months ago

    According to ANSA, Francis repeated the term on Tuesday as he met Roman priests, saying “there is an air of removed ness in the Vatican,” and it was better that young men with a homosexual tendency not be allowed to enter the seminary.

    Edit: lemmy replaced the slur with “removed”, i just wanted to post the context anyway

      • kamenLady.@lemmy.world
        21·
        5 months ago

        I don’t really know. It was the first time this happened. The slur was in the text i copied and after submitting it was changed.

        Edit: i just took a look in the lemmy docs and my client’s settings, didn’t find anything related. Anyway it seems to be a global filter and should affect all submissions, which is nice.

  • zeh_ahoi@lemmy.ml
    67·
    5 months ago

    still funny to me.

    kids rooting for fucking hamas - but they openly hate gays, womenrights, trans…well everything. say hamas is a POS and any thread derails.

    pope does the same shit those christian-fruitloops did for 2000 years and people think an ANSA report was an enlightment. wtf? religion = shit. always has been. each and every one of them.

    and now there’ll be plenty of ppl saying thats not true, not to generalize, dont hate on ppl. just to cry out when the religions do what they always do - hate the others. or as the fruitloops call it “speading love” like an israeli settler, ISIS or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. why would your church need 200billion dollars (e.g.The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints)? if you believe in the god of any religion how can you not be an asshole for claiming to know better than everyone else just based on your shitty beliefs??

    fuck religion. fuck hamas, the prophet, jesus and the pope. any in that regard any entity of any religion.

    • theilleist@lemmy.ml
      31·
      5 months ago

      Actually, you can disapprove of both hamas and the murder of tens of thousands of Palestinian civilians. Simultaneously. Without self-contradiction, even. Give it a try!