A 29-year-old police officer died on Sunday after being repeatedly stabbed during an attack at an anti-Islam rally in Germany.

A 29-year-old police officer died on Sunday after being repeatedly stabbed during an attack at an anti-Islam rally in Germany.

  • ZozanoEnglish
    64·
    7 months ago

    Do you think there’s an argument to be made that Boeing’s aeroplane failures are overrepresented in media?

    What a stupid thing to say.

    I don’t need to crunch any numbers; the links are right there, the murderers EXPLICITLY state they did it because the person insulted their religion.

    I challenge you to find me more than one example of a murder which was deliberately invoked because someone insulted a holy person from another religion over the last ten years.

    • poVoq@slrpnk.netMEnglish
      42·
      7 months ago

      Yes, Boeing’s failures are vastly overrepresented in media if you compare it deaths caused by cars for example. It’s really stupid to be afraid of Boeing planes, but not of cars.

      And there are litterally thousands of murders caused by right-wing ideology, which is almost indistinguishable from extremist islamism. Look up some actual data on that and you will see that this is a much bigger danger in “non-muslim majority” countries. But you probably don’t care because you are personally not their target 😑

      • ZozanoEnglish
        21·
        7 months ago

        You’re missing the forest for the trees.

        There are thousands of murders caused by right-wing ideology (Islam is also a right-wing ideology), but the difference is nobody is trying to kill me because I say Nazis are bad, or Trump is a dickhead.

        And about Boeing… The failures are not vastly overrepresented, they are represented exactly as they are. If a car manufacturer had as many faults as Boeing, then yes, they would get equal airtime. In this analogy, wouldn’t it be fucking insane if people were being killed for criticising Boeing?

        • poVoq@slrpnk.netMEnglish
          61·
          7 months ago

          nobody is trying to kill me because I say Nazis are bad

          That is demonstratably false, people get attacked and killed for saying exactly that.

          You really need to get out of your right-wing media bubble.

          And the Boeing whistleblowers suspiciously died recently 🤔

          • ZozanoEnglish
            21·
            7 months ago

            Demonstrate it then? Show me an example of someone attempting to kill another because they drew a comic of Trump or Hitler, or were critical.

            I don’t have a right-wing media bubble. Only one of those articles was from a right-wing news outlet, but that doesn’t make it false.

            Yes, Boeing whistleblowers suspiciously died recently, and people are noticing, and are being critical of Boeing, as they should - and that’s a good thing.

            • poVoq@slrpnk.netMEnglish
              32·
              7 months ago

              Now it suddenly needs to be the very specific case of drawing a comic 🙄 You are moving goalposts, because you can’t deny that there have been a lot of right-wing motivated murders.

              • ZozanoEnglish
                2·
                7 months ago

                Killing people for drawing comics IS right-wing motivated murder.

                And no, its not moving goal posts because it’s the example I’ve been giving this whole time to illustrate the insanity on display.

                I did however offer you a slight concession when I said “or were critical”.

                Here’s the thing, you cannot provide examples which are comparable to the insanity being projected by Islamists.

                • poVoq@slrpnk.netMEnglish
                  21·
                  7 months ago

                  You mean killing people because they have a different skin color is not even more insane?

                  • ZozanoEnglish
                    2·
                    7 months ago

                    Now, I don’t believe you’re arguing in good faith.

                    Skin colour is not just skin colour, it has implications about ethnicity, which is agreeably insane, but the whole point I’ve been arguing about is that I am critical of all religions.

                    heres a link so you dont imply im movong goalposts.

                    Can you provide any examples of any other religions, outside of their religious-majority countries, where their followers act as extremely, for as small of a reason?

    • RidderSport@feddit.deEnglish
      31·
      7 months ago

      You are literally ignoring what I am saying. I’ve answered to the thread where you were answering the argument of mentally insane people kill as much as islamists, but the latter are more represented by the media by searching for headlines on a search engine. Nothing else, I’ve not actually challenged the argument of islamists completely overreacting at people insulting their believes.

      Though just to clarify, while sceptism toward religion is always warranted, insulting someone’s believes is arguably a no-go as well.

      But you’re obviously on a slippery slope towards the right. There have been plenty of violent attacks on politicians in the past few months in Germany alone. And they didn’t even have to say anything against the attackers ideology

      • Zozano@lemy.lolEnglish
        31·
        7 months ago

        One of the mods banned be because of a disagreement. Don’t be surprised if I don’t reply after this (means I got banned again) So I’m replying here:

        I guess we’re just talking past one another.

        I am not talking about how represented Islamic terrorism is, at all - whether it is reported in the news or not, it’s besides any point I’m making.

        It simply is a fact that murdering due to drawing cartoons is not a life or death matter for any other religious group (or any other claims, like Muhammad being a paedophile).