Newsmax host Carl Higbie went on a tirade on Friday after former President Donald Trump was convicted by a Manhattan jury the day before.

The presumptive Republican presidential nominee was found guilty on all 34 counts of falsifying business records to conceal hush money payments to cover up extramarital affairs. Trump was concerned the affairs would come to light and harm his presidential aspirations. The Republican freakout has been swift if not predictable. Despite their outrage and indignation, some conservatives insist that being a convicted felon will help Trump’s chances of returning to the White House in November’s election.

During Friday’s edition of Frontline on Newsmax, Higbie demanded congressional Republicans drop everything and go after those involved in Trump’s prosecution.

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    I’d like to remind that News Max host that the city that convicted Donald Trump murders 400 people each year with guns.

    Blue cities ain’t trying to pass gun regulations because they’re afraid of the idea of guns. They’re trying to pass gun laws because they have a fuck ton of guns.

    Those aren’t fireworks we hear every night.

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      Conservatives underestimate how much firepower the left has - they just don’t advertise it like it’s their personality. Even strongholds like Texas actually have less guns per household than the national average.

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        I think the chodes that own like 20+ pew pews are all far right. But you can’t use 20 at a time, so I guess that won’t help much. I’d put hard money on odds of much more citizens who’ve actually shot someone before as being non-republicans.

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        What I find funny is that they act like a bunch of hicks with guns is going to charge a tank or have a prayers chance against a predator drone. The party of serving your country and small government always seems to forget the military is part of the government.

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    Get in there and subpoena everyone. This judge, his daughter, everyone affiliated with anything ever, ever! I don’t care if we stop building bridges and highways and stop funding our government. You fight fire with fire. Otherwise, these Marxists are going to keep doing this.

    You’re advocating against the rule of law and making threatening remarks towards millions of Americans. Like a terrorist. That’s what a terrorist does. Promote violence without technically saying you promote violence why don’t you.

    You have never met America.

    Have you? You wish harm on your country and her people. For god sakes your lord and savior man didn’t even win the popular vote when he was actually elected. What the hell are you smoking?

    “And when he does, I’m gonna sit back, I’m gonna drink a beer, I’m gonna smoke a cigar the size of Cuba and laugh because they earned this one,” he stated.

    Check where you’re buying your cigs mate.

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    That’s cute. I know lots of democrats who love their guns just as much. The difference is we know when to use them and how to properly store them so our kids don’t get mad at their classmates and you know, make mistakes that cost themselves and their classmates the rest of their lives

    🤷🏻‍♂️

    Stay mad and ignorant tho. It’s easier on the rest of us to deal with you when you’re blinded by rage and have had the only solid footing you have on this world knocked out beneath you.

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    Even if they do have 90% of the guns, they still only own about 30% of the trigger fingers. A guy with a garage full of guns can only shoot one at a time.

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      I was gonna say 2 guns, but how would they hold their beer?

      Do the have a designated anti gun person to hold the beers?

      Then who will they shoot at? Can’t waste the beer by shooting the beer holder!

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        Shooting two guns at once is something that only happens in movies, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see one of these Very Special Forces guys on the right try to do it because he thinks it looks cool. I’d rather face him than someone who’s properly handling only one gun.

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          This exactly. Guns have way more of a kick than people think and way less ammo. Too many people believe what they see in action movies. The gun range I go to you always hear about someone who wanted to live out something the saw in a movie… Only to end up shooting the ceiling, missing the target, and finding it the mag doesn’t last minutes (for guns with an auto setting).

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      Also there’s a reason that revolutions tend to wind up with apolitical bureaucrat types in charge. The people who believe in something enough to fight and die for it do so.

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      Having that many weapons also makes you a target. Whether that be as a threat or for theft of said valuable weapons, it defeats the purpose of having so many. It’s like open carrying. All it does is make you a priority target if a shooting does happen.

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    Let’s take a step back from that provocation and look at the bigger picture.

    • This is intended to create division and make money (like Frank Reynolds would).
    • Neighbours shooting neighbours or rural folks shooting city people (or the other way around), that won’t lead to any takeover or to any surrendering of power on a larger scale.
    • That’s just terrorism and could (at most) cause chaos and terror.
    • If there actually was domestic violence on a larger scale, it would come down to: who controls the military or which part of the military is on which side.
    • I would avoid meaningless skirmishes e.g. in a suburb of Seattle.

    I’m not saying succumb to bullies, but whatever you do, be smart about it.

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      city

      It’s their fantasy that they’ll go into the ‘city’ to take it over. Let them. Downtown is mostly social services in major cities, maybe some healthcare or a large teaching hospital. They’ll quickly realize that pointing guns at homeless people isn’t very productive.

      The vast majority of people live in suburbs, don’t care about politics, don’t follow the news.

      Revenge fantasies are always stupid. Modern cities are vast tracks of cookie-cutter suburban housing.

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    Gun ownership by party:

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/249775/percentage-of-population-in-the-us-owning-a-gun-by-party-affiliation/

    48% of Republicans personally own a gun.
    66% of Republicans live in a gun owning household.

    20% and 31% on the Democratic side.

    32% and 42% for Independents.

    https://ballotpedia.org/Partisan_affiliations_of_registered_voters

    “number of registered voters by partisan affiliations in states that allow voters to register by party and report those totals publicly”

    So only about 30 states + the US Virgin Islands, so these numbers will be low.

    “45 million registered voters in these areas identified themselves as Democrats.”

    45 * .2 = 9,000,000 Democratic gun owners, and 13,950,000 Democrats living in gun owning households.

    “35.7 million registered voters identified themselves as Republicans”

    35.7 * .48 = 17,136,000 Republican gun owners and 23,562,000 Republicans living in gun owning households.

    “32.5 million registered voters identified themselves as independents”

    32.5 * .32 = 10,400,000 Independent gun owners and 13,650,000 Independents living in gun owning households.

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    Oh I don’t have any guns I guess. They can come test this theory on me and my friends, they might be sad at the outcome, well for a couple seconds before they succumb to the darkness.

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      Newsmax: you city people better be scared because we have all the guns

      Also Newsmax: Gun laws won’t reduce gun violence, cities are full of guns!

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        These people are scared of fucking Seattle and Portland, they’ll fafo real quick if they try to roll into Atlanta, Memphis, or Chicago thinking they’ll be the most well armed

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        Exactly where my head went. Both sides have all the guns, are the most [insert adjective] and that’s why we have guns.

        Gold fuckin medal. In fact it’s a sweep all three medals in gymnastics.

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      I’m really glad that the trump presidency woke up a bunch of my liberal/progressive friends, as for the longest time I was the only one with firearms. Now, it’s like 85% who have firearms. I don’t think the meal team 6 guys know the rest of us are packing a lot more heat now.

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      Yeah, I don’t get the obsession over the number of guns. You can make shit in your basement or garage that is going to do a lot more damage than a gun.

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        Ease of use/ ease of access. Any asshole can grab a gun and do something bad with it. It takes a halfway literate asshole to Google someones “cookbook download” and read the pdf. Then take the steps to do anything with it.

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    We have all the guns! We’re on the edge!

    Liberals are trying to bait us into violence.

    Wat?

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    This disparity really does concern me. Non-MAGA people need to arm themselves. I know, I know. Guns are bad. But fascist tyranny is worse.

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      You would be surprised how many on the left own guns and know how to use them. Also, while military membership leans conservative, they do not tend to like Trump.

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      This is exactly what gun makers want.

      This is not the solution.

      Plus in the end, it’s not about the quantity, but how you use them.

      And we’re not alone in this. There’s the National Guard too.

      Don’t fall for the fear mongering.

      Their “best” chance at doing anything of consequence was January 6 (in quotes because we know how that played out.) What makes you think this time around will be different?

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        Nothing wrong with a contingency plan. Even if it does benefit gun manufacturers. And the National Guard has killed a lot of union organizers and student protestors so it’s not a given they’ll protect you.

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      Hey, hey. This comes from a place of fear and that’s okay, but recognize it for what it is. Buying guns in fear is what gets people hurt. If you choose to buy a gun for the first time, take proficiency courses. Learn the legal responsibilities that come with it. If you’re genuinely concerned, protect yourself in a responsible way. That may or may not be with a firearm. There are many ways to protect yourself. Take martial arts classes for instance.

      This may seem like a wild suggestion, but try therapy. It did wonders for my anxiety. Seriously. I don’t worry as much. I don’t live in fear. I have friends ALL across the political spectrum. We get along fine. We treat each other with love and respect. The news and media drums up fear and excitement for attention. It’s what sells ads.

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        You do you. But perhaps you’re coming from a place of denial. Therapy can help with that too.

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          I won’t rule out your point. It’s good to be pragmatic. But I do know that fear isn’t a good leader. I’ll continue with my therapy. It does help. I recommend it to everyone.

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            Under normal circumstances I think your advice would be appropriate. I just happen to think these aren’t normal circumstances. Sometimes the danger is real and warrants increased vigilance. I’m certainly not suggesting people buy firearms they don’t know how to use, on a whim. I’m suggesting they consider investing time and effort to become proficient with them. It’s not about shooting people. It’s about having a credible deterrent.

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              That’s fair. I think we agree that it’s important to emphasize proficiency and responsibility. It needs to be explicit. Otherwise, it just plays into media extremism.

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                Yeah, don’t count on that poster to listen to you and act responsibly. I do appreciate what you wrote for the rest of the readers, though.

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          Ok, now you’re no better than the far-right wackos. Don’t get offended for the therapy bit. Stop with the stigma. It was a genuine piece of advice. If it’s not for me, a graceful “not for me, thanks” would have sufficed, not that reactionary “no u!”, which is in alignment with your original fear-based comment.

          Step away from the internet news for a bit. People tend to build these scenarios in their minds when they’re logged on 24/7.

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            I agree that mental healthcare is important and not to be stigmatized.

            The only thing I’m trying to encourage is preparedness over complacency. Thinking through the worst case scenario before it happens isn’t fear, it’s the beginning of assurance. It’s how you avoid freezing when the bad thing happens. Maybe that doesn’t mean guns. But it does mean I’m taking these overt threats of violence seriously and I think it’s prudent for others to as well.

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        To be clear: I’m not talking about counting guns. I’m talking about normalized insanity. The Republicans continue to play with fire and whip the crazies into a frenzy. Democrats just gawk at them and make reassuring statements to each other.

        I’m saying there could be more Pizzagate-style vigilantes and Jan. 6ers in our future and we need to think about what it means to be ready for it.

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    As I’ve been saying, the people on the political left need to get strapped, they need to train, and they need to organize. Laws and cops aren’t going to protect you, esp. when most cops are on the side of Trump. All of the laws trying to ban guns and prevent most citizens from owning them are going to do is make it ever easier for the boot of the authoritarians to crush you.

    You need to take that power back, and remind the police that they only get to enforce laws by the consent of the people.

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        Some are. Most aren’t I’d wager. Believing in the rights of other sentient beings typically tips you into the camp of not wanting to kill things.

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          Also we’re more likely to be aware of and accounting for mental health issues and so hesitate to bring a gun into a house with someone who shouldn’t have one. I want a firearm for self defense, my wife has depression and seeing as the whole goal is to keep her safe I do so by not having a gun

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        Liberals classically respond with calling you a MAGAt, insisting that “they have drones”, ask why you think you’d have a chance against the worlds greatest military, and a bunch of other silly bullshit statements that show that they have no understanding of anything that is happening around them, what the problem is, and have zero knowledge of history as they tell you that violence never solves anything.

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          Prove it. Just because it is a catchy doesn’t mean it’s true.

          Look, voting is made difficult for certain segments of our society for a reason. It takes actual effort to make it run badly. My district is affluent White+Asian and voting is super easy. The district next to mine is almost 100% POC and each and every election there are stories of multiple hour long waits there.

          This is not an accident. This is systemic and it has been systemic since about 1865. So when I hear people argue that voting doesn’t matter I ask why it really seems to matter to multiple generations of the powers-that-be. Why do people in the age of Twitter and the age of telegraphs consistently have the same view? Well when I see that I usually conclude because the facts havent changed.

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      Or I could invest in skills that benefit me and society while using my vote to push government policy towards outcomes that benefit humanity.