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          Bill Clinton encouraged Donald Trump to run for President during a phone call before he decided to run for president

          https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/politics/clinton-encouraged-trump-to-run-for-president_washington-dc/100233/

          How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy

          https://www.salon.com/2016/11/09/the-hillary-clinton-campaign-intentionally-created-donald-trump-with-its-pied-piper-strategy/

          They Always Wanted Trump. Inside Team Clinton’s year-long struggle to find a strategy against the opponent they were most eager to face.

          https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428/

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            Edit: Due to the vague implications of the above comments, I was under the impression that the claim was Clintons’ intention to get Trump elected. Many, many comments later, it was explained that the more rational claim of encouraging Trump to run was because they thought he’d be an easy opponent to beat. Maybe people should say what they mean, rather leaving vague, incomplete, bait comments for others to determine their own interpretations of insinuation.

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                I’m aware they were friends. Bill and Trump hung out in the same circles, including Epstein’s island. I still don’t believe your conspiracy theory.

                The Clintons are capitalist conservatives posing as Democrats.

                Trump is an authoritarian dictator Russian puppet.

                They want to fuck this nation in entirely different positions.

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                    Yes. It’s well known that Hillary worked with Debbie Wasserman Schultz to keep Bernie out of the spotlight. Her goal was to force a win of the primary, not give the election to Trump.

                    It’s the ethical responsibility of the convention, not the candidate, to ensure an impartial primary. It’s a candidate’s job to self-advocate. It’s the convention’s job to keep it fair and balanced.

                    Hillary was a disappointment. Debbie was a failure.

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                  Return2ozma: provides tons of mainstream sources demonstrating actual things that objectively happened according to people who have no reason to make it up

                  This guy over here: “I still don’t believe your conspiracy theory” 🤦

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                    None of those sources substantiate why they would want him to win. I completely agree that Hillary leveraged Debbie to keep Bernie out of the spotlight to force a win of the primary. I’d also believe it’s possible that Bill tried to convince Trump to run in order to ease Hillary’s win in the Presidential election.

                    Claiming that their goal was getting Trump elected is off the reservation cuckoobananas.

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                  There is evidence that Trump has been to the island on multiple occasions via testimony by Epstein’s brother.

                  There is evidence that Clinton rode on Epstein’s Plane to various AIDs relief sites in Africa.

                  There is NO evidence that Clinton has ever been to the island.

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            It’s easier to point fingers at her, but it’s not her job to keep the primary impartial. As I said above, it’s a candidate’s job to self advocate. It’s the DNC’s job to keep the primary fair and impartial.

            Hillary was a disappointment. Debbie was a failure.

            I’m guessing you’re blaming her while having abstained from voting in 2016?

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          it would’ve been a completely alternative universe if we had Bernie from 2016 until 2024. He’s too good for rotten america

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            Yeah, you purity testing fuckers would currently be calling him names because he dared to compromise with people who only believe 99.95% of what you do.

            Losing was the best thing to happen to Bernie. Now you can sanctify him because he’s not in the limelight.

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            Again, it’s well documented that Debbie was helping Hillary. It’s not Hillary’s job to be impartial, it’s Debbie’s. There’s a reason insurance companies won’t pay the claim if you’re robbed after leaving your doors unlocked. Candidates are expected to ask for preferential treatment. It’s the convention’s job to deny it. This was Debbie’s responsibility, and she failed to execute.

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              This was Debbie’s responsibility, and she failed to execute.

              Her responsibility was to throw the primary for Clinton. She did so.