• ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
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    6 months ago

    Veganism requires vastly less land and water resources

    This too can cause misinformation.

    Supporting a vegetarian diet requires less land and water resources.

    Veganism requires the overuse of pesticides to the point that it makes the soil become unusable faster and hence needs higher treatment upkeep, essentially causing faster consumption of the limited energy resources we have.

    You are spreading misinformation.

    You were correct until here, but the land use food calculator will actually only be giving information pertaining to a normal (non-vegan) crop.

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      6 months ago

      Veganism requires the overuse of pesticides

      What makes you think that? Why would growing grain for humans require more pesticides than growing grain for animals, for example?

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        6 months ago

        Why would growing grain for humans require more pesticides than growing grain for animals

        Growing grain for the vegan brand will require more pesticides. It’s as if noone is really reading.

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      6 months ago

      What you are missing here is that we wouldn’t need to grow more food than we do now, we would need to grow less. Whatever issue you can point at for growing enough plants to feed the world, we’re already dealing with now. We already grow enough plant based calories to feed the world over, we just feed it to cows and other livestock. We would need to use less pesticides (not to mention antibiotics) even if everyone was vegan.

      You are also narrowing in on obscure edge cases. As others have pointed out not all problems need to be solved and not all people need to adopt a vegan diet for us to make progress towards sustainability. It would be like worrying about the grid and battery technology and strip mining required to create solar panels etc. in the transition to renewable energy. worthy causes for sure but not justification to keep using fossil fuels.

      And people don’t even have to change their moral judgment in the case of doing it for climate reasons. They are free to keep believing however they do. Though I suspect that once people stop eating meat for pragmatic reasons the motivated reasoning behind their moral judgment will collapse.

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        6 months ago

        What I am putting up there, is that, stopping meat is not the problem.
        The problem arises with using the veganism buzzword, which will make people think that paying those who advertise vegan stuff would make anything better.

        It would most definitely make it worse than whole vegetarian (which includes putting up with the insects and worms that come during farming) and might even end up being as much of a burden as the meat industry.
        People will think they are doing better, while not actually doing better, which is worse than the status quo.