• Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    1 month ago

    Sorry… you’re comparing what Israel is doing right now to what allies did to a city in the country that was itself perpetrating the genocide? A country that was also itself invading Allied nations?

    Is this opposite day or something?

    • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Nop. I’m contesting your logic. Not comparing the countries. We are examining whether your logic holds up to scrutiny.

      • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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        1 month ago

        I don’t even know what you think my logic is beyond “the more innocent people you kill, the less morally justified your position becomes.”

        Can you give an example of when that is not the case? Because I don’t know too many people who think that the bombing of Dresden was morally justified.

        • TheFonz@lemmy.world
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          1 month ago

          Ok, so if Hamas kills more people that automatically makes Israel’s actions justified?

                • FlowVoid@lemmy.world
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                  1 month ago

                  In war, you are allowed to kill innocents if necessary to achieve a valid military objective.

                  In this war, the IDF’s objective is to destroy Hamas.

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                    1 month ago

                    You’re not allowed to target civilians at all.

                    You can target military objectives like certain infrastructure to disable it, but you’re not allowed to target civilians. The rules of war just says when civilian casualties aren’t punishable. You have to take measures to ensure attacks are as precise as you can make them and with as little collateral damage as possible.

                    “eliminate every human because they might be an enemy” is not a valid military objective.

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                    1 month ago

                    “Allowed” by whom? “Necessary” by whose metric?

                    If their objective is to destroy Hamas and they determine that the only way to do that is wipe out the Palestinian people from the face of the Earth, you’re saying that’s justified because it’s their necessary military objective?