• glue_snorter@lemmy.sdfeu.org
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    1 year ago

    “It’s bad to be transphobic, bigoted or a nazi”

    “you call anyone who disagrees with you ‘transphobic’ or ‘bigot’ or ‘nazi’”

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      1 year ago

      What’s happening however is:

      “Maybe don’t experiment on children by giving them irreversible puberty blockers and surgeries”

      “Transphobe!!! Bigot! Die fucking Terf nazi!!!”

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        1 year ago

        I see you’ve got your little bit of screen time so you’re back on your rants. When the world continues to spin and you are the minority, will you be one of the ones to change your views? Will you be the coward who holds his bigotries in silence? Or the vocal minority that rails against the coming of the light and is seen by all as the impotent creature of hate that you would be?

        Place your bets.

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          Great fantasies and what ifs! Really making a good point 😂

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          1 year ago

          Chemo isn’t experimental though. There are experimental types of cancer treatments and guess what? They go through years and years of trials and tests. You know what hasn’t done that? Puberty blockers.

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              The FDA has not approved puberty blockers for use in transgender kids.

              As just happened with Ivermectin and Covid, the fda can’t stop doctors from prescribing it for off-brand usage.

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                1 year ago

                This supports your more moderate comment: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7430465/

                I’ll agree that, legally and medically, use of puberty blockers as treatment for gender dysphoria is “experimental”, on the grounds that those drugs are not approved for that specific condition.

                However, the drugs have long history of approved usage, so “experimenting on our kids” is twisting the truth. That phrase carries a lot of freight. It’s lying.

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                  The drugs have been used to delay puberty until the child is the expected age to go through puberty, not to block puberty indefinitely. They might give them to a 5 year old who starts puberty to delay their puberty until they’re 10 or whatever the age is. That’s vastly different from giving them to a 13 year old and having them stay on them till 18 at which time they take cross sex hormones and get surgery.

                  One of those approved uses is chemical castration btw.

                  I did not lie. You said it yourself - their use for “gender dysphoria” Is experimental. The long term effects are unknown, but we already know of some terrible permanent side effects and we know they’re not fully reversible.

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                    Technically, you didn’t lie. You just chose the most freighted language possible, and omitted the context that undermines your point (viz, that these drugs are approved for other uses).

                    Then, bringing up permanent side effects, you omitted the permanent harm caused by not administering treatment. Because that harm happens to people you don’t like.

                    This isn’t a debate, it’s you tubthumping against my friends. Fuck you for using children as a weapon.