• Tristaniopsis
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    9 months ago

    Oh are you ‘left’ now?!? Because it seems to me that you are doing everything you can to sabotage and demoralise the Dems and help the GOP.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not going to apologize for being unhappy with the party’s decades-long shift to the right.

      I love how when centrists can’t defend how utterly useless they’ve made the party, they start calling people republicans and russians.

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        9 months ago

        I’m not a ‘centrist’ but I am realist.

        I’m far more Left than you know, but realise that unless we play the hand we have, the whole game is over.

        Right now, we have Biden. There’s no one else lined up. That’s what it is. It’s either him or Trump come November.

        You gonna roll around crying and kicking on the ground and poop your pants, or stand up and use whatever leverage we have to push back against the tide of blatant evil that the GOP not only represents, but literally acts for…?!?

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          9 months ago

          So you’ve gone from baseless accusations that everyone on the left with any criticism whatsoever is a Republican or a Russian, to dismissing all criticism as the actions of spoiled children.

          You can’t defend Biden or his policies on their merits, so you have to sling abuse and accusations instead.

          If you expect me to believe that you’re not a centrist, stop acting like one.

          or stand up and use whatever leverage we have

          There’s no fucking “we” here. You have leverage over people like me who you clearly hate for daring to be unhappy. Centrists and their Republican best buddies are all we have to vote for, and all we’ll ever have to vote for. Congratulations.

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            9 months ago

            Bah. There’ll be no chance for positive change if there’s nothing remaining to change!

            You want a smouldering ruin of democracy? Keep it up.

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              9 months ago

              When the people we vote for won’t lift a fucking finger to stop fascism and instead support a genocide, I’m going to criticize, no matter how much pro-genocide centrists order me to shut up and be happy.

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                  9 months ago

                  You have a tendency to jump to calling progressives and leftists Republican Russian children, so there’s no reason to accept your assessments as grounded in reality.

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                    9 months ago

                    You have a tendency to dismiss anything 1% right of full communism as ‘centrist’.

                    Why not partake in some reality?

                    I think you are just here to demoralise Dems and are shilling for the dark money of the RW.

                    Instead of slandering Biden, why not help stop Trump, then go on to push the party Leftwards.