• Tristaniopsis
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    4 months ago

    Decades of presidents on both sides of the aisle have supported and sent arms to Israel.

    It’s unfortunate (for everyone, especially the poor Palestinians) that Netenyahu is such a fucking creep and sleazeball that he manufactured this whole thing to distract from his deep shittiness. Biden happened to be the guy in the hot seat.

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      What do you mean he “happened to be the guy in the hot seat”? He gleefully sent more bombs during an ongoing genocide, no one really forced his hand did they?

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        It’s not quite as simple as that. But I agree that it ain’t a good look.

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            What Israel is doing is horrible. Don’t get me wrong.

            Biden inherited a long-standing strategic alliance which was not ideal.

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                Ok ok. But in a few months time the realistic choice (unless trump goes to prison and is disqualified) is Biden vs Trump and I don’t think there’s any choice there whatsoever.

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                    Trump isn’t even a valid option unless a person is genuinely fucked in the head, which it appear that 40% of the US are.

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                  Which is why people shouldn’t vote. Don’t participate in a sham vote, don’t vote for genocidal maniacs.

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                    No you should vote, but you should also engage in civil disobedience, and at some point uncivil disobedience.

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                    Fuck off. It’s vote Dem or face the destruction of the US.

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              Biden helped build that alliance for over 37 years now, thats how old that clip is. And he explicitly says that they would have to “invent an israel if it didn’t exist”. This man is not in some moral quandary, this is what he wants, what he wanted for a long time.

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        Simple rules for rulers. You don’t become president of the US if you don’t commit genocide for all the rest of the people who want it; they ultimately elect you afterall. But remember if you aren’t president of the US, you can’t enfore any change at all, you have no power.

        The most benevolent presidents will still continue to feed the war machine because they wish to be president and enact good. Biden just happened to be in the hotseat in this case, and if it has been Trump there would be war all over europe, nato disbanded and Russia getting Military funds instead.

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            Lmao “gleeful”. I think you misunderstand how your government works. Congress allocates the money, the president executes the spending.

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              The president sold weapons for Netanyahu’s genocide and didn’t have to go through congress to do it.

              You’re pulling the “you don’t know how government works” Standard Centrist Gaslighting because you can’t defend Biden’s support for genocide.

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                I’m not wrong, says right there in your article he had to “bypass congress” to send the measly 150 mil to uphold US relations because half of your government is trying to sabotage the other half no matter the cost, reasons or means. Do you know the difference between 150 mil and 40 billion? You’re being played by these numbers that Biden “bypassed” out, the entire US government funds Israel.

                Go read up on how your government works and then we can chat. Start by your own article

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                  The point wasn’t the amount you dingbat. He is giving aid over and beyond what some mysterious “hot seat” requires him to. Even when hampered he still looks for ways to aid ethnic cleansing. He willingly, gleefully is participating in this genocide. You don’t vote for people like that. That’s beyond any reasonable red line, but seemingly people are willing to let it slide regardless.