Shipped in Windows 11 Insider Preview Build 26052. https://www.tiraniddo.dev/2024/02/sudo-on-windows-quick-rundown.html claims it has a big security problem that makes the program accept calls to elevate from anywhere once first run

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  1. The security problem has been internally fixed and will be available in the next release
  2. It’s not just an alias for ‘runas’. It seems to be able to configurably block user input for sudo’d commands, retain the existing environment, ditch it and open a new window, and remember that you’ve sudo’d in the last minute or so.
  3. It brings up UAC instead of having you input the password
  • NathA
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    I was Googling like mad just this week on how to execute a cmdlet as Admin from within a script that isn’t running with elevated privileges. The results all basically came back with some variation of “just run the script as Admin”.

    This is the right way to do it. I’m glad it’s coming.

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      The OpenBSD devs published a mail about it. The irony here is how Microsoft would behave if anybody else copied their concepts, including the name. The treatment is never symmetric or reciprocal.

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        I mean licensing comes in here. The FOSS licenses allow this. Microsoft EULA and copyright almost certainly does not. But yes, I get the sentiment.

        It’s almost as if all of the FAANG/Magnificent 7 market outperformance the past 15 years was built on the backs of the free labor provided by the FOSS movement. But then they will turn around and claim that non-western companies steal IP, etc and have US intervene to ban competition, or sue in courts. Kind of funny.

        Back to the tech discussion, I’ve been using doas for a few years now instead of sudo. Even on my GNU/Linux machines. It’s a lot simpler to setup for desktop workflow machines.

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          free labor provided by the FOSS movement

          Check out the contributors to Linux, how many of them work for free vs. how many work on behalf of companies.

          There is this pervasive myth that FOSS gets developed by lone wolves working in their spare time, when in reality most of the projects that get any traction, have a financing model behind them.

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        No irony there; BSD devs want companies to copy their code and close it down… or they wouldn’t be using the BSD license.

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        That’s where I started, of course - but you can’t combine -verb with -credential. It’s a silly limitation that seems to make sense to Microsoft. What you can do is configure a savecred which you can call with RunAs, but you then need to update that saved credential every time the password changes.

        I do have a $Credential object that has been pulled out of the password safe that has elevation permissions, but can’t seem to apply it non-interactively or without being in an elevated session. This appears to be by design. Not that I intended my comment to turn into a support question. 😀

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      runas will do it, but the syntax is awful. i’m so glad windows is finally getting a real sudo

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        I like it! I think I’ll tinker with this on my workstation, potentially even my dev environment. It isn’t suitable for my present issue though, as gsudo is not in the SOE. Also, from that little demo thingy, it appears to pop up a UAC prompt the first time it executes. I need to be non-interactive.

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            This is a sad revelation. This sudo implementation wasn’t going to make much difference to me immediately anyway, as I assume sudo won’t be in Windows Server until v2025. But still: I was hoping it would work like *nix with a sudoers file or something similar.

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        Haven’t tried it on Linux, but it says the -verb runas only works on Windows… might have to use actual sudo on Linux.