When traveling or socializing we have less control of our food quality and preparation. What Carnivore options do you choose when your out?
When traveling or socializing we have less control of our food quality and preparation. What Carnivore options do you choose when your out?
Murder is a crime. It has some pretty simple definitions. I don’t think any of us are committing murder.
If you wish to call meat production murder by analogy 1. You’re wrong; and 2. Is that worse than the (analogous) manslaughter committed against grassland animals in harvesting grains?
So after all these people came into the community, hexbear blocked our community, so they wont see our replies. I’m not sure we lost any subscribers when they blocked us - but it’s possible.
I don’t think I’m sad to see them gone, though I hope that when vegans organise a brigade, some of them read what they’re arguing against
I wonder if the posts they attack now are intended to reduce exposure of their people to the science
There is hope some will read, but most came by didn’t engage in a good faith discussion, what discussion that happened was focused on emotions rather then outcomes. Heck, they misquoted me, and slandered uninvolved people.
https://hexbear.net/post/4737964
I have noticed a trend, most people don’t want to have a discussion, or think about topics - They want to dump their opinion or emotional take and then walk away. Very rarely, vanishingly, will someone actually engage in a follow-up discussion after their initial dump.
This raises some interesting implications
So most of lemmy is emotional hot takes, upvotes and downvotes based on feelings, and some political grandstanding… I suppose that is social media in general. Fair enough, people come to social media to vibe, and not discuss the topics they are not focused on.
Example - https://hackertalks.com/post/9675003/8318457
This person used 3 ad hominem attacks, one expert opinion cited twice (same person two interviews), and called published research not credible. My response was a dispassionate and complete as I could make it… no response at all. They only came into the conversation to drop their negativity on the topic, and no interest in moving the needle. It was a emotional interaction.
Yeah the bulk are not looking to learn, but Reddit’s zerocarb community has a lot of ex-vegans who knew about carnivore (zero carb) only because they had been sent there to disrupt it, and so when their health deteriorated enough to make them abandon vegan they remembered zeeocarb’s mantra “meat heals”
I very much like your willingness to engage them
It’s good practice, and lets me check my logic. I do enjoy a healthy back and forth debate, where people disagree but engage in real constructive dialog.
I have a good friend who was a vegan the entire time I knew him, and now he eats some meat, and is cutting down on carbs. All thanks to years long patience, the compelling nature of a continuous glucose monitor, and no judgement. On a personal level - I really don’t care what someone eats, if they are getting the outcomes they want, then more power to them. If, however, they are not getting the outcomes they like, I’m happy to throw my two cents in.
My one bug bear in the lemmy discourse is the people who don’t read papers but cite papers. Because they are just forwarding something someone else read, there is no way to discuss the paper with them.
I suppose I have two bug bears - epidemiology used as “proof” because no better evidence exists is just lazy thinking… dismissing opposing epidemiology and promoting inline epidemiology isn’t science, its just religion with extra steps.
On the good side their arguments are terrible