This is something I’ve been waiting for, for ages, and is the reason I didn’t get any previously (because the interest free loan didn’t make sense, because of the risk of batteries dropping faster than any savings from the loan)
If it’s a good deal, I’ll likely buy more Solar panels too and double them from 6.6kw (5kw inverter).
Obviously, wouldn’t be buying a tesla powerwall, but ideally something AC coupled still (so really hoping BYD makes something like that)
I am want to sell my jeep… Been waiting for a 4wd which is cheap enough though, with enough range. Don’t need towing capacity at all, but need the capabilities if things go to crap (I operate a hiking group, and at least 1 or 2 overnight trips we went on, the weather turned to complete crap the next day and we needed high clearance to get out of it… But places like Falls Creek at 450km from me (so 900 round trip), so range is somewhat important too, but I do accept that on the way home from some of these things, I might charge
Ideally want an EV though with enough range. Of its a Hybrid, I’d only need something with only a tiny pissy petrol engine, for emergency use that can be disabled mostly.
Really, no idea why people wouldn’t want an EV if one suited
This is why not everyone wants one. EVs are great and I’d love to get one as my next car, but they don’t cover everyone’s needs at every price point, and most people don’t have the ability to charge them at any useful speed thanks to the power infrastructure. There’s also the issue of the second hand market - no one wants to buy a second hand electric car, but most people understand that buying a brand new car is a fools game.
It costs half the price of a new EV to replace the battery. Buying a second hand EV means you have no idea how the battery has been treated, and you know the clock is already ticking until you have to shell out a massive amount of $ for a new battery.
@Whirlybird@kudra
The condition of a used EV depends on how it’s been treated. EVs are not alone in that.
In general, the battery of a modern EV can be expected to last for the useful life of the vehicle. “… scientists discovered that battery replacements were very rare, with only about 1.5 percent of EVs needing a replacement – and almost all of those replacements were under warranty.” https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/research-shows-ev-battery-replacements-very-rare
Correct, new EVs have even better batteries than first gen too. My first EV I replaced the battery, but not because they’re was anything wrong with it: that battery likely would have lasted at least twice as long, but an enterprising engineer created a battery upgrade that doubled the original range in the same footprint, and we can expect further improvements in batteries, so I expect to upgrade again in future, maybe 10-15 years, and double the range again.
Old EV batteries can be reused and make ideal off grid house batteries.
I think it’s taking longer for bidirectional to be legal in most parts of Australia, though that might be happening soon. V2G is going to be a game changer for reducing dependence on coal, can’t come soon enough!
Haha just read the article, it’s great to see the approval but appalling we apparently have zero compatible cars. I have a JDM grey import with Chademo and that tech has been bidirectional for over a decade. So dumb.
This is something I’ve been waiting for, for ages, and is the reason I didn’t get any previously (because the interest free loan didn’t make sense, because of the risk of batteries dropping faster than any savings from the loan)
If it’s a good deal, I’ll likely buy more Solar panels too and double them from 6.6kw (5kw inverter).
Obviously, wouldn’t be buying a tesla powerwall, but ideally something AC coupled still (so really hoping BYD makes something like that)
grab a BYD var and do this ?
https://zecar.com/reviews/bidirectional-v2h-and-v2g-ev-chargers-guide
I am want to sell my jeep… Been waiting for a 4wd which is cheap enough though, with enough range. Don’t need towing capacity at all, but need the capabilities if things go to crap (I operate a hiking group, and at least 1 or 2 overnight trips we went on, the weather turned to complete crap the next day and we needed high clearance to get out of it… But places like Falls Creek at 450km from me (so 900 round trip), so range is somewhat important too, but I do accept that on the way home from some of these things, I might charge
Ideally want an EV though with enough range. Of its a Hybrid, I’d only need something with only a tiny pissy petrol engine, for emergency use that can be disabled mostly.
Really, no idea why people wouldn’t want an EV if one suited
This is why not everyone wants one. EVs are great and I’d love to get one as my next car, but they don’t cover everyone’s needs at every price point, and most people don’t have the ability to charge them at any useful speed thanks to the power infrastructure. There’s also the issue of the second hand market - no one wants to buy a second hand electric car, but most people understand that buying a brand new car is a fools game.
I have bought two secondhand electric cars and about to buy my third. Most people still don’t understand this isn’t quite as risky as it appears.
It costs half the price of a new EV to replace the battery. Buying a second hand EV means you have no idea how the battery has been treated, and you know the clock is already ticking until you have to shell out a massive amount of $ for a new battery.
@Whirlybird @kudra
The condition of a used EV depends on how it’s been treated. EVs are not alone in that.
In general, the battery of a modern EV can be expected to last for the useful life of the vehicle. “… scientists discovered that battery replacements were very rare, with only about 1.5 percent of EVs needing a replacement – and almost all of those replacements were under warranty.”
https://www.greencars.com/expert-insights/research-shows-ev-battery-replacements-very-rare
#ElectricVehicles
#EVbatteries
Correct, new EVs have even better batteries than first gen too. My first EV I replaced the battery, but not because they’re was anything wrong with it: that battery likely would have lasted at least twice as long, but an enterprising engineer created a battery upgrade that doubled the original range in the same footprint, and we can expect further improvements in batteries, so I expect to upgrade again in future, maybe 10-15 years, and double the range again.
Old EV batteries can be reused and make ideal off grid house batteries.
Have you actually bought a second hand EV?
I think it’s taking longer for bidirectional to be legal in most parts of Australia, though that might be happening soon. V2G is going to be a game changer for reducing dependence on coal, can’t come soon enough!
Haha just read the article, it’s great to see the approval but appalling we apparently have zero compatible cars. I have a JDM grey import with Chademo and that tech has been bidirectional for over a decade. So dumb.