• ikt
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    9 hours ago

    companies are getting ahead of themselves about the opportunity to fire human employees

    But then if they produce garbage with AI people will buy the non-garbage product

    Either it produces something of value or it doesn’t, if it’s producing garbage, lowering output, etc then it’s not a threat to our jobs because most people don’t like garbage, if it’s producing genuine value then it will be.

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      8 hours ago

      Early cars weren’t a threat to streetcars and trains and urban planning but modern cars have reshaped every North American city. You can criticize the inefficiency, poor quality, energy waste, etc. of the technology today while also pointing out the dangers of tomorrow.

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        But cars have always had value, we’re talking under an article that calls AI “magic beans”

        How could magic beans which produce garbage enslave humanity under capitalism? Would you argue that cars which replaced horses as the primary mode of transport in a few years be called this?

        You can argue that AI does some things badly, it’s still very very early on and the progress people are making is insane, like nothing I’ve seen before, but you can’t argue it is worthless and a giant threat to us at the same time, this is contradictory

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          8 hours ago

          The cars that replaced horses were several iterations in, early “automobile” devices included steam powered carriages that moved slower than walking.

          A technology may start with limited usage while still having lots of potential.

          Technologies are always useless until they’re not.

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            we’re not in the slower than walking era, we’re in the ford model t era, i’m reading someone call the ford model t magic beans (eg. a scam) while millions of people are driving one every day and simultaneously worried it’s going to ruin transportation all over the north america

            “It took years of hard work for us to steal beans from farmers, apply our unique brand of magic, and seek investment from our nation’s finest rubes and oafs,” a Beanco spokesman said. “Now DeepBean wants to steal our magic beans, rebrand the magic, and get money from their own buffoons and clods? It’s just not right.”

            again, these are contradictory statements, it cannot be both a scam that has no value (eg. magic beans) and going to take all our jobs

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              7 hours ago

              It seems you’re firmly entrenched and going out of your way to see a contradiction. I’ll let you be.

              Consider that there’s no widespread double-think happening and it could just be in your own head at this point.

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                  6 hours ago

                  I didn’t think your point was as shallow as “different people can have different opinions”

                  I fail to see how this invalidates that someone can hold both the position that current AI is a waste of electricity and pumping out garbage while pointing out the potential social and economic disruption of future iterations of the technology.

                  If your point was simply that some people hold one position, others hold the other, and others still hold both. Then… thanks? I think we can also call this a waste of electricity.

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                    hey i’m running on solar and battery so no waste of electricity here ;)

                    but yeah that was it, i just noticed how here and on mastodon i read ‘ai is a scam’ and then turn my head and read ‘ai will take all our jobs’, makes for a nice whiplash effect

                    also it’s 4am here i’m going to sleep, appreciate the chat