Ahh don’t you blame DS9 for kurtzmann’s bullshit. Cherry picking motherfucker has warped concepts.
You literally have DS9 going “section 31 is the antithesis of everything we wish to be, we need to destroy this antiquated cancer” and kurtz is in the corner scribbling down notes on how to build the puppy mincing machine
I’m not blaming DS9! It’s one of my favorites in the series. But it really didn’t feel like Star Trek; it was petty dark, most of the time, with a lot of questionable ethics. It was all rationalized and the setting made absolute sense, but still… it strayed far from TOS.
not really, I mean in-universe TOS had a death penalty for going to a planet of superpowered telepaths. Women couldn’t be starship captains…and lemme tell you as a woman, there are a lot of problems with TOS.
Couldn’t be? Is that cannon from TOS, or do we just have no examples of women captains? Which episode was that in? I can believe it, but it would surprise me. Uhura was a full lieutenant, which is an officer rank.
But, yeah, it was a broadcast television series produced in the 60’s and a lot of that seeped through despite Roddenberry’s efforts to normalize interracial relationships and minority equality.
I had always interpreted that as Starfleet not allowing captains to be married, and also that she was also genuinely unfit for command herself. But looking into it, I see that apparently Roddenberry later stated that the comments did actually refer to women not being allowed to be captains. And that he had immediately regretted adding that.
Yeah, that “if only” was a shit note to end the series on. “If only she could be content with being a second class citizen…” cheer trek, thanks for that
Ahh don’t you blame DS9 for kurtzmann’s bullshit. Cherry picking motherfucker has warped concepts.
You literally have DS9 going “section 31 is the antithesis of everything we wish to be, we need to destroy this antiquated cancer” and kurtz is in the corner scribbling down notes on how to build the puppy mincing machine
I’m not blaming DS9! It’s one of my favorites in the series. But it really didn’t feel like Star Trek; it was petty dark, most of the time, with a lot of questionable ethics. It was all rationalized and the setting made absolute sense, but still… it strayed far from TOS.
not really, I mean in-universe TOS had a death penalty for going to a planet of superpowered telepaths. Women couldn’t be starship captains…and lemme tell you as a woman, there are a lot of problems with TOS.
a lot.
Couldn’t be? Is that cannon from TOS, or do we just have no examples of women captains? Which episode was that in? I can believe it, but it would surprise me. Uhura was a full lieutenant, which is an officer rank.
But, yeah, it was a broadcast television series produced in the 60’s and a lot of that seeped through despite Roddenberry’s efforts to normalize interracial relationships and minority equality.
Dude. infamously turnabout intruder.
I had always interpreted that as Starfleet not allowing captains to be married, and also that she was also genuinely unfit for command herself. But looking into it, I see that apparently Roddenberry later stated that the comments did actually refer to women not being allowed to be captains. And that he had immediately regretted adding that.
Yeah, that “if only” was a shit note to end the series on. “If only she could be content with being a second class citizen…” cheer trek, thanks for that