• Ilandar
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    Nice bravado but he ultimately wasted years of his life in solitary confinement.

    EDIT: Maybe not years. Certainly months. Actually it was over a year when you add the reported stints together.

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        I believe it was because he failed to return to Sweden to serve his Pirate Bay sentence and instead remained in Cambodia where he was living at the time. There was an international warrant out for his arrest and when he was deported back to Sweden he was judged at risk of flight or further “criminal activities”. He was removed from solitary after a few months, so I’m not sure if he was put back there for his later, longer sentence of hacking.

        EDIT: He was later held in solitary confinement in Denmark for at least 10 months while awaiting trial for hacking.

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          Why would he need to be in solitary for being a flight risk? Sounds like you’re mixing up regular prison and solitary confinement…

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              “He is kept under restrictions as decided by the prosecutor. TV in his cell. He can buy cigarettes and sweets from a kiosk that comes Monday and Wednesdays,” Kristina explains.

              “He is offered one hour ‘outdoors’ each day in some kind of exercise yard with high concrete walls. That is all he is allowed to leave his cell for. No gym, no opportunities to meet other people except for the guards.

              Ok so I think what most people think about when they talk about solitary confinement is the US version where you have a small cell with a toilet, sink and bed and that’s it, you’re behind a door with a small window and sometimes you don’t even get an hour of exercise…

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                Ok so I think what most people think about when they talk about solitary confinement is the US version

                “Okay so I think what most people think about when they talk about Sweden and Denmark is the US”.

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                  "The European Court of Human Rights distinguishes between complete sensory isolation, total social isolation and relative social isolation[30] and notes that "complete sensory isolation, coupled with total social isolation can destroy the personality and constitutes a form of inhuman treatment which cannot be justified by the requirements of security or any other reason. " https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solitary_confinement

                  If the European courts find it important to distinguish between types of solidary confinement them I feel like posters should as well. Otherwise you can’t blame people for defaulting to the most commonly used type of solidarity confinement.

                  And the US has far more prisoners than Europeans do and we use solidary confinement far more often.

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                    You act like this is a universally confusing concept, when it’s only Americans who seem to have difficulty understanding that different countries have different laws and definitions. In any case, it was reported as solitary confinement in both the EU and US at the time so I’m not really sure what you guys are crying about.

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                  This is so satisfying to read lol. The USA-centrism is so annoying, especially prior their elections.

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                    That is sort of like complaining that people think of the US when they hear “school shooting”: The US has something like 20% of the world’s prison population and we likely use complete solidarity confinement more than any every other (developed) country combined together… So the term is rightfully US centric because, like school shootings, solidary confinement is far more of an issue in America.