The answer to that one is obvious - to create free facilities and let communities form themselves. Right now youth centres have disappeared, teens are hurried out of any gathering space, play areas are regimented out of any joy or priced to prohibition and you end up with young people being left with the activity options of isolation, or group activities that are antisocial or involve substance abuse
create free facilities and let communities form themselves.
They don’t form themselves (or at least that’s a rare exception), and I think by now the teenagers are so fixated on online interactions that they will have a hard time adapting to, let alone create such spaces themselves.
The very act of providing space and resources means that it didn’t create itself.
There are rare exceptions where the community came first and they managed to acquire the space and resources later, but most of these places were quite intentionally set up to foster a community around them.
@poVoq
That’s not how i3Detroit started. It began with a group having an idea and making it happen.
You seem to assume that they couldn’t achieve something unless someone gave them a handout. The commercial makerspaces showed up later.
Expecting them to create without resources is like expecting a crop without planting seeds.
Communities don’t naturally form, they are a means to an end to a particular goal. Most people aren’t interested in being with like-minded folks “just because” these days, and very few people understand and relate to each other in general, due to atomized cultural backgrounds.
The answer to that one is obvious - to create free facilities and let communities form themselves. Right now youth centres have disappeared, teens are hurried out of any gathering space, play areas are regimented out of any joy or priced to prohibition and you end up with young people being left with the activity options of isolation, or group activities that are antisocial or involve substance abuse
They don’t form themselves (or at least that’s a rare exception), and I think by now the teenagers are so fixated on online interactions that they will have a hard time adapting to, let alone create such spaces themselves.
@poVoq
Have you ever seen a Makerspace or Hackerspace? Youth are just fine at creating community when they have the resources.
@Taleya @solarpunk
The very act of providing space and resources means that it didn’t create itself.
There are rare exceptions where the community came first and they managed to acquire the space and resources later, but most of these places were quite intentionally set up to foster a community around them.
@poVoq
That’s not how i3Detroit started. It began with a group having an idea and making it happen.
You seem to assume that they couldn’t achieve something unless someone gave them a handout. The commercial makerspaces showed up later.
Expecting them to create without resources is like expecting a crop without planting seeds.
I explicitly said that there are rare exceptions 🤷♂️ And no one even mentioned commercial makerspaces.
Please don’t assume that others assume things they neither said nor implied.
@poVoq
Okay. You win the internet.
I have no idea what you’re implying, assuming or using as a metric for what is rare or not.
Communities don’t naturally form, they are a means to an end to a particular goal. Most people aren’t interested in being with like-minded folks “just because” these days, and very few people understand and relate to each other in general, due to atomized cultural backgrounds.
This has nothing to do with literally anything I said