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Bring back the DST
This is a crisp answer, nice one.
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You said it doesn’t matter if we can tell how something was made.
This conversation is over. Thanks
Ah to be fair i did misinterpret your previous statement.
But no, I am arguing that we are not able to ignore knowledge of the production process. Nothing mystical about that.
That’s not a rejection of what I said, so I assume you agree.
No, I’m saying we can no longer meaningfully separate the product and the process.
I am saying that we can no longer meaningfully separate the two things.
First you said “it doesn’t matter if we can tell or not”, which I responded to.
So I’m confused by your reply here.
This argument strikes me as a tautology. “If we don’t care if it’s different, then it doesn’t matter to us”.
But that ship has sailed. We do care.
We care because the use of AI says something about our view of ourselves as human beings. We care because these systems represent a new serfdom in so many ways. We care because AI is flooding our information environment with slop and enabling fascism.
And I don’t believe it’s possible for us to go back to a state of not-caring about whether or not something is AI-generated. Like it or not, ideas and symbols matter.
If you can tell it was produced in a certain way by the way it looks, then that means it cannot be materially equivalent to the non-AI stock image, no?
I mean, it can’t really do ‘every random idea’ though, right? Any output is limited to the way the system was trained to approximate certain stylistic and aesthetic features of imagery. For example, the banner image here follows a stereotypically AI-type texture, lighting, etc. This shows us that the system has at least as much control as the user.
In other words: it is incredibly easy to spot AI-generated imagery, so if the output is obviously AI, then can we really say that the AI generated a “stock image”, or did it generate something different in kind?
I dunno what to tell you other than that I have been consistently pointing out that AI is a process, not a tool.
If the result of that process is the same wherever it’s introduced, then your model of the world has to be able account for that.
Want to know how I know that it does?
Because the result is the same over and over and over and over and over again. Every single time!
Look at how great AI is for Colombian students as a way to change their material conditions 🙌 https://restofworld.org/2025/colombia-meta-ai-education/
Hold on though there are talking droids in the Star Wars documentaries and those happened a LONGGG time ago apparently
Edit: to be fair that was in a galaxy far, far away so it’s entirely possible that neither Karl nor Richard were aware of the technology
You think? I dunno, I could totally see Marx getting ChatGPT to generate a quick first draft of Capital, would definitely speed up the process of spreading his ideas … I mean spreading his material
Richard
edit: folks don’t like Richard Marx, hey believe me I get it
I had low expectations, yes, but somehow our PM managed to turn the recognition of Palestinian statehood into something that makes all sorts of demands on Palestinians while using the most passive of possible voices to describe Israel’s campaign of war crimes and genocide:
“The ongoing failure by the Israeli government to prevent the rapidly deteriorating humanitarian disaster in Gaza”
I just cannot fathom how morally bankrupt someone has to be to make a statement so backhanded and cruel in the midst of so much injustice against the Palestinian people.
Even just the key combos (win+numpad) to do basic tiling in XFCE are a huge plus