@fediverse @Perfide @MoogleMaestro
The staff of automatic have confirmed multiple times on Twitter and Mastodon that they’re working on this for both Tumblr and wordpress. And many people offered their help, including the co-inventor of ActivityPub.

This IS happening. I don’t know when, but it’s coming.

@fediverse @PabloDiscobar @vaguerant
This is not how federation works. You only get the content from the people you follow. If you run a single user instance and you follow 5 people you only get the content from 5 people. If they’re all in the same server it can even be grouped as a single request to the shared inbox.

Meta can have 100M, 1B, 5B users it change nothing for rest of us. Unless one of the local users really want to follow a million of accounts.

@matthieu_xyz @fediverse @vaguerant @PabloDiscobar
If I use mastodon. I don’t need to signup or install anything. I can just get the content for free. They get minimal info about me (less metadata than in an email even!!) and I gave them no authorization to datamine anything! I’m also free from their terrible algorithm. It’s like all good content in my inbox at no cost.

(And OP is right. Posting from mastodon is a pain in the ass)

@fediverse
@vaguerant
@PabloDiscobar
If I install Threads I need to signup. To signup I need to sign their ToS and give up all my rights. Then I need to install an app that will spy on my phone and send them a ton of info about me. And private info, not just the content of what I post. And they can resell and datamine that info because I gave them the right to do it.

@kbinMeta
@10A
Considering the issue about tankies on some lemmy instances, I think we understand how much left is too far left. And what you describe as “woke” isn’t it.

@fediverse
@rozno @SuperSpruce
Choosing a server is often the hardest step. That’s why you should send the signup page of your fav instance to your friends and not the official lemmy page.

@nostupidquestions
@zenithseeker

ActivityPub have supports for multiple type of objects, and actions on those objects. Like liking (or upvoting) a post.

But beside that, it’s just about the same. You can absolutely build a functioning bridge that would translate emails into ActivityPub and then subscribe to it from Lemmy instance. There are a lot of bridges (XMPP, Twitter mirrors, Nostr, etc.)

@zenithseeker
@nostupidquestions
ActivityPub have supports for multiple type of objects, and actions on those objects. Like liking (or upvoting) a post.

But beside that, it’s just about the same. You can absolutely build a functioning bridge that would translate emails into ActivityPub and then subscribe to it from Lemmy instance. There are a lot of bridges (XMPP, Twitter mirrors, Nostr, etc.)

@thegiddystitcher @RedirectedPotato
Another con: You become an admin/moderator and have to keep up to date with the latest bad servers to defederate from and you’ll have to deal with all kind of bad posts yourself instead of relying on a moderation team.

@cedarmesa @c2h6
Diaspora is one of the oldest of the oldest. Much older than mastodon. They’re federated too, but not on the same network.

Mastodon and lemmy uses ActivityPub. (Mastodon used to run on OStatus, but then switched to ActivituPub later) Diaspora uses its own protocol and refuses to ever switch to a most recent one.

Some fediverse services however (friendica and hubzilla which are kinda facebook-like) are using multiple protocols and can federate with both mastodon and diaspora.

@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.

And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of [email protected] decided to migrate the community to [email protected] and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle

@Boingbong
Mastodon can do that. Lemmy not at the moment. But it’s a very needed features.

And hopefully not just users, but the transfer of an entire community should theoretically be possible. Like mods of [email protected] decided to migrate the community to [email protected] and all subscribers to the community are transferred. It is possible in principle

@programming
@WatTyler
There is a demo of an algorithmic timeline thingy for mastodon at https://fedifeed.herokuapp.com/ and I really really like how it has a bunch of sliders for fine-tuning. The time penalty in particular is very important.

Would be absolutely awesome to have the same on lemmy.

Edit: Lemmy doesn’t show my picture…

https://static.piaille.fr/media_attachments/files/110/542/349/085/964/483/original/23daedec7cd17277.png

@ValueSubtracted
Instance users are only local users.
Community users include remote users who remotely subscribed to the community.

So the community users will always be higher than the number of instance users.

And it still doesn’t count lurkers like we who reply to a thread without subscribing.

@SuperIce @domage
Misskey is a Japanese twitter-like. It’s actually older than mastodon and very popular in Japan specifically. They have custom emoji reactions under posts, they have animation and advanced markdown, they can have cat ears on their profile pictures, THEY HAVE QUOTE REPOST, chat, advanced search features, etc.

Misskey have been forked multiple times (foudkey, calckey, etc.) and those forks are more popular in English-speaking communities.

@_finger_
We can have both generic instances and instances around a particular topic.

We already have a few lemmy dedicated to a particular community like latte.isnot.coffee and startrek.website

@Senseibull
You can think of it like emails.

A lemmy community is like an automated mailbox that sends everything they receive to all subscribers.

You can host a mailing list/community on gmail.

Then you can subscribe to the mailing list from outlook.

Then a user can send a post to the mailing list from yahoo.

The automated mailbox at gmail will receive the message from yahoo and send it to outlook and all other subscribers.

@aka_quant_noir @Bicyclejohn

Some people are working on that. Calckey will soon be able to import posts from twitter (can alerady import from mastodon). Pixelfed can already import from instagram right now!!

Kbin and lemmy are very late in that regard. You can’t even migrate your social graph.

@Bicyclejohn I don’t know about “replace”, but popular social media could JOIN the fediverse.

I don’t blame new users to be late on news. But to make a quick recap, the people interested in implementing ActivityPub include:

- Meta (insta/twt replacement)
- Tumblr
- Wordpress.com
- Medium (currently only running mastodon)
- Discourse
- Flarum

Last time I check those were a few popular social media.

Discourse and Flarum in particular are relevant to Lemmy

@PriorProject

I think that’s almost inevitable. Almost all mid-sized lemmy instances will have a copy of almost all mid-sized lemmy communities.

Lemmy is a very different beast compared to mastodon. Of course not everyone is following everyone on mastodon, but if you have an even slightly diverse userbase, they’ll subscribe to a lot of different communities and your instance will have a lot of traffic very quickly. Hosting lemmy is going to be challenging.