“If Blinken and the US administration would have liked this war to be over, this war would be over. Continuing to supply Israel with weapons and to beg Israel to stop the war is quite a farce. This is not international relations, this is a children’s game.” – Gideon Levy, Haaretz

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  • Hamas’ actions cannot be moral for they killed civilians which Israel is now doing and rightfully getting pushback for.

    Hamas’ actions are moral. Indigenous people have the right to resist settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing. Settlers have no right to use their people as human shields. If Russia was sending people to settle the territories it occupied from Ukraine you would have supported the Ukrainians fighting them back with any means necessary. Russians can’t claim that the settlers are innocent civilians.

    Hamas actions are not justified as they have not reacted to civilian deaths but only to the death of their commander/leader.

    Hamas has been serious about ceasefire negotiations from the beginning of the conflict. Israel wants to use this conflict to justify the 2nd Nakba they wanted to do for years.

    Hamas actions’ legality is moot as their morality is questionable at best.

    It is not moot, it is very relevant. Per international law people living under a military occupation have the right to resist even violently. The vast majority of people Hamas killed were military, it was Israel’s Hannibal Directive that lead to most of the civilian deaths.

    If they did not kill civilians on oct 7 then most of the deaths in Gaza since Oct 7 would have never happened.

    If Israel hasn’t illegally occupied Palestinian territories since 1967 Hamas wouldn’t have come to be. The root of all evil here is the colonialism and occupation of Palestine, not the resistance. Israel has used settlers as human shields since its founding. You are blaming the victim for resisting and blaming them for the genocidal response from the aggressors.

    Hamas willing to drop their weapons and surrender is just a political move designed to trick people into thinking they care about Gaza or it’s civilians. Nobody would be willing to bet that Netanyahu would accept their surrender.

    The Arab Peace Initiative was from 2002. In 2006 Ismail Haniyeh sent a message to George W Bush telling him of Hamas’ willingness to negotiate and accept a 2-state solution on 1967 borders. Both were rejected. The Likud Party has a policy since the 1970s of not allowing or recognizing any Palestinian state.

    Addressing #1 & #2: The legality/morality of Israel’s action in Gaza since Oct 7 is not a complement of the actions of Hamas. There is no justification for killing Israeli civilians on oct 7.

    There is justifications for resisting settler colonialism, military occupation and ethnic cleansing, which Israelis are all participants in.

    Anyways, Israelis forced themselves on Palestine through sheer brutality committing massacres, rape and ethnic cleansing since its founding. They will leave the way they came. I really don’t care if you accept it or not. International law is clear and Zionist settler colonialism is the root of all evil in this conflict. What Palestinians do as a response is moral, legal and justified.

























  • In 1988, Professor Isaiah Leibovitz wrote “If this situation continues, the hooliganization — or should we even say the nazification — of the people and society in Israel, is inevitable”. Today, 35 years later, hooliganization has reached its peak: bullying is omnipresent, on the roads, on social media, in the vulgar speech of elected officials, and in every aspect of life in Israel. Violence reached its peak against Palestinians, even when comparing, in this year alone, the number of Israeli deaths resulting from terrorist attacks to dozens of Palestinian deaths that are not related to terrorism. The violence and bullying towards Palestinians by Jewish settlers is an everyday occurrence and is another horrific indication of the decline in the value of human life and human dignity that we are experiencing.

    As Prof. Leibovitz predicted, the occupation crosses the green line and spreads throughout Israeli society. The methods used ‘over there’ are moving here, oppressive acts applied ‘there’ are moving here, and soon the disdain for human life will move in – it already has in a way.

    Meanwhile, most of protestors in Tel Aviv are wary of making this connection and are horrified by speakers who try to connect the palpable risk to democracy with the occupation of the territories or the waving of Palestinian flags in protest. However, the moment may well come when they too will recognize that there is no democracy alongside occupation.

    The Times of Israel Feb 28, 2023 There is no democracy with occupation