Compassion >~ Thought

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  • (& [email protected] - we’ll see if notifications like this work here as well!:-P)

    Yes [email protected] your idea would be better than it is now - the benefit would be to allow someone to reply to comments on that post, with an account based on PieFed rather than needing to create one on a remote instance. Although even Lemmy does not have this capability (afaik?) to retrieve posts from a remote instance, so there is no “expectation” that it be provided.

    Just to reiterate: if the retrieval function was to either be enhanced to work fully & properly, or else to go away entirely - or at least be de-emphasized (right now it seems available from almost every page across the entire piefed.social site?) so that common users (like me!:-P) don’t just play around with it willy-nilly and generate such partial (mis-)information postings - then either way that would solve the problem.

    The problem, imho anyway, is the presence of the partial information, which is so confusing to people. But again: if the retrieval function was simply not present at all, that does not seem all that “bad” to me? (especially since, again afaict, Lemmy lacks it too, at least for non-admins)

    And I can’t really speak to Rimu’s comment about whether it’s “cheating” to use the API, except naively to say that doing something all of once upon a special request each time might not be all that bad? Though that’s still code to have to write, test, deploy, investigate for potential exploits, etc., and I am not sure how commonly people would really want to make use of it? Although if they did, I could see someone wanting to get e.g. all of the posts for the past several months for a community that nobody has previously subscribed to on a PieFed instance. But that’s a lot of effort for seemingly little gain? Purely from an end-user perspective, I would rather see things like adding a Preview option to comment replies and/or making the replies to comments be in-line in the sam epage (especially since after you do something, like perhaps editing a reply, the web UI deposits you to a different page than where you started, and you have to go hunt for the reply you just worked on, possibly having to delve deeper into the comment chain i.e. so that a browser “find” may not work, just to see how your comment ended up being rendered; e.g. I’ve made comments where the image was not rendered correctly, or just this morning I noticed that my mobile browser had put a space between the [url display text] (https://actualurlhere.com) - so this is a common item that I end up having to deal with multiple times a day and sometimes multiple times per hour; while in contrast, I virtually never need to see an old post and reply to it; so while the presence of the misinformation is confusing and I hope can be dealt with sooner, the expansion of the retrieval function is a significantly lower priority issue - again, just imho, in case it helps to hear from a fresh POV:-D)





  • I’m not sure what you mean by the latter - b/c in this case the community definitely exists, so “creating” it if the ID were to ever not be found would lead to… well, it could have lead to exactly something like this, actually? Also, would you really want to pull in posts from a community that doesn’t already exist on a PieFed instance? Why even, especially if nobody has asked for it? So maybe instead of find_or_create, just a find_or_ignore?

    But I have zero experience with ActivityPub, federation, or even much threaded-style programming, so I will leave such to you experts to puzzle out the actual solution!:-)


  • Yeah and 92 posts from a single community (for the 2nd one, updated more recently) does seem excessive, but then again there has been a HUGE flurry of daily posts there (https://lemmy.world/c/tenforward) these last few days so… actually fairly believable. Especially if edits to a posts’ content count towards that stat (I have no idea, just throwing that out there:-).

    Though it is also strange that the 1st community is shown as having been updated a few hours ago. Except… those don’t show up, at [email protected]? So maybe those updates are for comments/votes for the older posts, while somehow the newer posts are being slurped into the 2nd community, which then hides them from the end-user’s view.

    Anyway I don’t know how to take this further to diagnose, but I hoped that bringing it to your attention could be of at least some use!:-)