Has what you said been proven and documented anywhere? All I can find is threads of people claiming things, but no actual (investigative) journalism that covers these parts.
Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly. Still, I don’t mind being proven wrong if you got the proof to back it up
Has it been proven to happen on Windows 11? Not that I can point to specifically. 11 hasn’t been in general use long enough to see a real pattern of behavior.
I was a mixed Windows and Linux user through the full life cycle of the Cortana implementation. The number of times they changed or moved Cortana related settings through the years was just ridiculous. It finally came down to having to manually change registry settings to keep it from scanning your files and messing with basic local search, and even if you did that you had to make sure the registry values were still set after version updates because they would get unset without warning.
I have no trust left for Microsoft, only suspicion.
Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly.
More like a few thousand euros symbolic fine and an angry letter saying “don’t be an ass again pls our infrastructure depends on you” after years of blatant abuses and anti-consumer practices, followed by an ambiguous law (with positive effects affecting only european users) they will definitely not manage to circumvent withing the next week and a half. Not this time 🤡.
The problem here is the fact that most people just do not give a fuck about this; that’s why there’s no coverage in the (mainstream) media, why the only people who cares end up just leaving windows and why this kind of options are usually opt-out and they can actually afford to silently re-enable them cuz who’s gonna check anyways? Random people ranting on meme communities about my fancy malware?
You seem to forget what kind of fines the EU hands out. specifically against Microsoft in 2004 the EU fined then 500 million. And then another few 100 million.
My windows install enjoys rebooting itself unexpectedly a lot. There is no chance I ever checked a box that said “update then reboot my computer at some time in the future”
No it doesn’t, at least not if the update isn’t already a month overdue
But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.
I’ve done 3 years worth of updates in one day cause I needed too. Pretty much everything was reset including registry edits, but the privacy toggles were one of the few things that stayed persistent. Maybe it’s a EU special feature (wouldn’t be the first), but at least here they won’t change back silently.
And this update outside active hours will have a good chance to “fix” your privacy settings again. Without you noticing. One basically needs a tool that confirms that your privacy settings are still active. And then wait how long it takes Microsoft to declare that tool as “malware”.
I agree with the general sentiment but it literally says it will update outside of active hours. So as non-disruptive as possible.
And the privacy toggles are set when you install the OS. You can untick all of them the last time I checked.
Sorry for being such a pedant
Yeah, but it lies.
But a future Windows update will reset them without informing the user.
Microsoft respects user choice about as well as Republicans respect voting rights.
Has what you said been proven and documented anywhere? All I can find is threads of people claiming things, but no actual (investigative) journalism that covers these parts.
Toggling on data collection without informing the user would mean billions of dollars worth of fines in Europe, so I doubt that happens regularly. Still, I don’t mind being proven wrong if you got the proof to back it up
Has it been proven to happen on Windows 11? Not that I can point to specifically. 11 hasn’t been in general use long enough to see a real pattern of behavior.
I was a mixed Windows and Linux user through the full life cycle of the Cortana implementation. The number of times they changed or moved Cortana related settings through the years was just ridiculous. It finally came down to having to manually change registry settings to keep it from scanning your files and messing with basic local search, and even if you did that you had to make sure the registry values were still set after version updates because they would get unset without warning.
I have no trust left for Microsoft, only suspicion.
More like a few thousand euros symbolic fine and an angry letter saying “don’t be an ass again pls our infrastructure depends on you” after years of blatant abuses and anti-consumer practices, followed by an ambiguous law (with positive effects affecting only european users) they will definitely not manage to circumvent withing the next week and a half. Not this time 🤡.
The problem here is the fact that most people just do not give a fuck about this; that’s why there’s no coverage in the (mainstream) media, why the only people who cares end up just leaving windows and why this kind of options are usually opt-out and they can actually afford to silently re-enable them cuz who’s gonna check anyways? Random people ranting on meme communities about my fancy malware?
You seem to forget what kind of fines the EU hands out. specifically against Microsoft in 2004 the EU fined then 500 million. And then another few 100 million.
Do they do that? I’ve had my laptop for a while, and it’s never happened to me.
My windows install enjoys rebooting itself unexpectedly a lot. There is no chance I ever checked a box that said “update then reboot my computer at some time in the future”
No it doesn’t, at least not if the update isn’t already a month overdue
I’ve done 3 years worth of updates in one day cause I needed too. Pretty much everything was reset including registry edits, but the privacy toggles were one of the few things that stayed persistent. Maybe it’s a EU special feature (wouldn’t be the first), but at least here they won’t change back silently.
And this update outside active hours will have a good chance to “fix” your privacy settings again. Without you noticing. One basically needs a tool that confirms that your privacy settings are still active. And then wait how long it takes Microsoft to declare that tool as “malware”.