• huginn@feddit.it
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      6 months ago

      You don’t have to defend the brutal dictators to shit on the fuckwits in the CIA.

      You can, in fact, hate both.

      “I need supreme authority to transfer control to the proletariat once the revolution* is complete!!1!”

      * never completes the revolution

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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        6 months ago

        “Disband the CIA but popular discontent in dictatorships is generally not a CIA plot” is where I’m coming from.

        • Ð Greıt Þu̇mpkin@lemm.ee
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          6 months ago

          We know what happens when the CIA tries to home grow a movement against a dictator from scratch

          It was called the bay of pigs, and it was such a disaster it’s why the CIA started exclusively using the tactic of attaching themselves to already existent movements.

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      6 months ago

      Amazing self-report with the instant whataboutism when defending dictators is mocked. Weren’t you just on another community saying that the Soviet Secret Police pulling fingernails off of interogatees to extract confessions were necessary, and that it’s actually the West’s fault that North Korea is a divine monarchy?

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        6 months ago

        I like the dichotomy. Fuck power structure and you may be misremembering the dialogue prier, definitely inflating it though 1000001981

        You delete these comments :/ but this is what I said.

        Someone had said how communism has caused much suffering, I wanted to add context to the history of communist revolutions.

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          6 months ago

          Yes, thank you for the second self-report on how you were defending Soviet Secret Police pulling fingernails off of interrogatees and blaming the West for North Korea becoming a Divine Monarchy.

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            6 months ago

            Your being manipulative. To construed context as apologetics is ridiculous and dangerous.

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              6 months ago

              I didn’t realize ‘context’ meant “Actually, North Korea’s divine monarchy is the West’s fault and the Soviet Secret Police were actually Super Necessary You Guys”

              It sounds almost like apologetics.

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                6 months ago

                These are both reactions to imperialism. Not pretty, not good but reactions. And this is something we should learn and talk about openly without conjecture and insults.

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                  6 months ago

                  These are both reactions to imperialism.

                  It’s funny how they resemble exactly how other authoritarian regimes acted even without the prodding of imperialism. Hmm. Hmm…

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                    6 months ago

                    Authoritarian is a word that was made up so that Communist regimes could be lumped in with Fascist regimes more easily.

                    Edit: I read this somewhere and it apparently is not correct. Turns out sometimes things that feel true are not. Thanks to BarrelAgedBoredom for their well-researched reply.