• Aceticon@lemmy.world
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    Ah, an Ad Hominen: hadn’t seen one of those in at least 5 minutes.

    How about you address my point that Biden isn’t willing to abdicate just one of his principles (support for Zionism, which is not even an especially moral one) to “Stop Trump” whilst sending peons of his tribe around demanding that millions abdicate their principles (and Humanist ones, which are about the most Moral principles one can have) and vote for him - somebody supporting an ongoing Genocide - to “Stop Trump”.

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      Ah, an Ad Hominen: hadn’t seen one of those in at least 5 minutes.

      An Ad Hominem, clearly, is when you claim that the evidence doesn’t back a talking point up, and the more you claim the evidence doesn’t back a talking point up, the more Ad Hominem it is.

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        doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.

        Mind you the cartoon is already heavilly Red Scare “anybody that disagrees is a Communist” so I’m not suprised with the whole implying that I’m a “commie” for disagreing with your political tribe.

        By the way, you’re still refusing to answer the question of why Biden won’t do himself what he demands from others…

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          doesn’t stop Very Serious Leftists™ from parroting it over and over and over again.

          Wait a minute - does ‘ad hominem’, to you, mean ‘someone said something mean about me’?

          Is that what you’re saying?

          By the way, you’re still refusing to address my point about why Biden won’t do what he demands from others…

          About why he won’t give up ‘a principle’ that is currently popular amongst the majority of Americans, including a majority of Democrats, to appeal to a minority of voters, who are not even particularly reliable voters at that?

          Huh. I guess it’s a mystery why a politician in a democratic system wouldn’t do that.

          I guess we’ll never know.

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              All of them are similar to the general scheme of ad hominem argument, that is instead of dealing with the essence of someone’s argument or trying to refute it, the interlocutor is attacking the character of the proponent of the argument and concluding that it is a sufficient reason to drop the initial argument.

              Don’t worry, sweetheart, I addressed your argument just fine; that you want to play tone police is on you. :)

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                Now you’re ad-homineming me as if I was that other guy you were having a fight with. If your refutation is sound, why do you need to attack someone’s character anyway?

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                  People who come into the middle of a fight and are surprised they got punched are the worse.

                  In case you can’t read between the lines, that means you

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                    I’m surprised you can’t tell people apart, not that you’ll lash out any which way

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        Biden has called himself a Zionist…

        If the majority of this country leans fascist and supports genocide (so long as they are sufficiently convinced the people we bomb or help bomb are evil enough), we will end up with fascism even if it isn’t trump. If genocide is the popular opinion and Biden risks losing the election if he reversed course, we have bigger issues in this country than president. A president might sign fascist laws, but local fascists enact them, and I know which one of them is more likely to kill me. Hell, local fascists might kill me even if biden wins. We have a fascism problem in this country and a huge group of voters being willing to overlook genocide is just a symptom.