• shalafi@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    So what are you gonna do? Send the cops to kill them? Because that’s how it plays out.

    And then there’s the apocryphal boating accident. Prove I still have the guns.

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      6 months ago

      If you jump straight to shooting when cops show up to take your toys, it’s a pretty good bet you never should have had them in the first place.

      If you “lost” it they should tear your fucking house apart with a warrant to make sure it’s really gone.

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        6 months ago

        We cool with police and government just barging into our homes and taking our property that we purchased legally with our own money now?

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        If you “lost” it they should tear your fucking house apart with a warrant to make sure it’s really gone.

        It blows my mind that some people think this course of action would be ok, and that it wouldn’t be abused by the authorities.

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          God forbid we get guns off the streets or out of the hands of criminals.

          I’d be much happier if they were doing it for guns instead of marijuana like they have for the last several decades.

          What makes you think it would be abused any more than warrants are right now?

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            What makes you think it would be abused any more than warrants are right now?

            Because time after time we’ve seen that when given new powers, new tools, or new technologies, the police abuse them.

            They would absolutely use this power to terrorize their opponents by ransacking their homes, whether they owned a gun or not. I’m not sure that it matters because more than half of this country seems to be ok with living in a fascist dictatorship as long as the dictator happens to be on their ‘side’ for the moment.

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        6 months ago

        That has happened many many times and a few times in the past few years the homeowner has even gotten away with it.

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      6 months ago

      License, insurance and registration (just like cars) for every gun. Massive fines with accruing interest for “lost” guns.

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        6 months ago

        What about stolen guns?

        If you carve out an exception then everyone will just say they were stolen.

        And if you don’t carve out an exception, you are now punishing people for a crime they didn’t commit.

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          Then you report it stolen as soon as you see that it’s gone

          If it’s used to commit a crime before you report it, there should be huge penalties. And if you’re just falsifying police statements, that’s already a crime.

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            6 months ago

            Just change “guns” to “cars” to see how ridiculous this position is. And cars are far more lethal per capita than guns are.

            So you know, I’m in favor of much stronger gun control in this country, licenses, registration, insurance, training requirements, recurring training requirements, all that. But your line of thinking in regards to criminalization is counterproductive and not rooted in the reality of how society works.