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      Did you know, in 1953, the US and UK governments overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed a monarch after they voted to nationalize their oil industry to wrest control of it from BP?

      Seems pretty fascist to me.

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        Is your definition of fascism essentially anti-democracy? Or military aggression/ colonialism? Honestly asking, because I’m not seeing what I’d consider hallmarks of fascism in your description.

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          That would be because they don’t understand what fascism is. The unfortunate result of internet colloquialism.

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          Look up the definition of fascism. There are a few. Here is one:

          Broadly, a tendency toward or support of a strongly authoritarian or dictatorial control of government or other organizations; – often used pejoratively in this sense.

          What do you call it when the American government supports and imposes strongly authoritarian or dictatorial control of government even if in another country. Is that not fascism?

          We did this in Guatemala too at the behest of the United Fruit Company. The CIA director Allen Dulles and his Secretary of State brother, John Dulles, were on United Fruit Company’s payroll for 38 years. In 1954, the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Guatemala after they passed reforms to end exploitative labor practices by United Fruit Company that it saw as a threat to its profits.

          Another definition of fascism involves the repressive use of government by business to ensure control of the market.

          A political regime, having totalitarian aspirations, ideologically based on a relationship between business and the centralized government, business-and-government control of the market place, repression of criticism or opposition, a leader cult and exalting the state and/or religion above individual rights.

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      North America has always been fascist.
      During ww2 Canada denied Jewish refugees. When the war ended Canada welcomed a bunch of Nazis and erected statues commemorating a few.

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        No. North America was once considered a great turtle and the people that walked the paths were many and different. No they were not fascist. Some tired to control but nobody tried to do what fascism tries.

        So fuck off with that language because some of those that know their history know we can fight under the flag of country but we are not the same person you described as North American.

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          Sorry. I was trying to be inclusive of Mexico, US and Canada.
          You’re absolutely right that the nations that existed before those three were not fascist.

      • K0W4L5K1@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Everyone welcomed the Nazis wouldn’t have gotten to the moon without one. Operation paperclip. Also check out operation Gladios for why socialism never had a chance in europe