• Zagorath
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    1 year ago

    Nebula is amazing and I would highly encourage any urbanist to sign up for it. It’s only like $30 per year.

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      1 year ago

      If they had anti clickbait policies, then maybe. Until then I look at their video feed in disgust and close the tab. I really don’t need a paid YouTube with all its garbage content.

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        1 year ago

        I can’t say I disagree with you. The thumbnails and titles are sometimes a bit clickbaity. But they don’t let anyone join the site as a creator unless they have faith in the actual content of the videos. They’re creators who sometimes use clickbaity thumbnails because that’s just essential to surviving the YouTube algorithm, and the Nebula version usually just takes the same title and thumbnail from YouTube. But it’s never the sort of clickbait where a clickbaity thumbnail was used to trick you into watching actual garbage content—the content is always high quality.

        I wish they’d tone it down for the Nebula version, but that’s an extra amount of work for honestly very little extra value, so I understand why they don’t.

        • 𝒍𝒆𝒎𝒂𝒏𝒏@lemmy.one
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          Fully agree. The videos especially are generally high quality regardless of how they’re dressed up, although i’ve found some creators use different thumbnails and video titles which gets confusing when trying to mark as watched in NewPipe afterwards

          This was pretty much my response to the user but didn’t feel like typing it out. Thanks for reading my mind 😁

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          They’re creators who sometimes use clickbaity thumbnails because that’s just essential to surviving the YouTube algorithm, and the Nebula version usually just takes the same title and thumbnail from YouTube.

          Oh. So they’re often just double dipping with the same content? That’s even worse.

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            1 year ago

            Huh? What are you talking about? Nebula has always been a place to see YouTube content ad-free, sometimes with bonus content or earlier than on YouTube. That’s like…its defining feature.

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                1 year ago

                Oh right. Yeah nah, it’s mostly YouTube videos without ads (preroll and midroll ads from YouTube, as well as sponsorship segments which are edited out). That’s the primary purpose of the site. On top of that, probably about 20% of videos have a bit of bonus content on Nebula ranging from a tiny segment of a few tens of seconds up to over 10 minutes. Then another roughly 20% of videos a released on Nebula first, often by 1 day, sometimes by over a month. Then finally there are the Nebula originals. These are funded by Nebula itself, many stay exclusive to Nebula for life, some eventually get released onto YouTube. There are podcasts too, like the Nebula-exclusive Jet Lag companion podcast The Layover, and Jason Slaughter of Not Just Bikes’ “The Urbanist Agenda” which is also available on public feeds (ad-supported, I assume—I’ve only ever listened to this one via Nebula).

                If you subscribe to Nebula, you’re doing it for all of that, but also in part in the interest of supporting creators. It’s like Patreon in that respect, part of its value is the knowledge that you’re doing something to help fund the creation of the content you enjoy to a much greater degree than if you were watching ads at single-digit dollars per thousand impressions (and obviously far greater than if you were blocking ads).

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      I loved the content, and paid for it for over a year, but the app and website were so awful I wound up watching the youtube versions via newpiped and not bothering with any of the exclusives so I cancelled.

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        1 year ago

        Out of interest, when was that? Because yeah the app really was awful. When I first started using Nebula I’d use the website in a browser on my phone rather than put up with the app.

        But it’s come a long way since then. Android is still a little unresponsive when it comes to things like adding or removing videos from your Watch Later list, but other than that I find it really good now.