• datelmd5sum@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Why is bandwidth so important? The M2 is about half as fast as a DDR4 era x86 desktop processor with half the memory bandwidth.

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      6 months ago

      https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5533vs3904vs4922/Apple-M2-Ultra-24-Core-vs-Intel-i9-11900K-vs-Apple-M2-8-Core-3500-MHz

      Benchmarks are of course just benchmarks, but the single-core performance is better for the M2, and the range-topping M2 is about 2x faster than the i9.

      Also, regardless of how something compares, if it is ever memory-bandwidth bound, then faster RAM should help. While most tasks may be CPU or IO bound, AFAIK there can still easily be memory bound tasks in real-world workloads.

      I picked the i9-11900k for comparison since I think that was the last one to only support DDR4 (making it “DDR4 era”). Ryzen maybe faster in the DDR4 era though?

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        6 months ago

        I wouldn’t really trust this site. Videos that go through a lot of different benchmarks /programs and games are way better. This shows the M2 being pretty average/normal between other laptop CPUs: https://youtu.be/FWfJq0Y4Oos

        And this shows M2 Ultra vs the top Intel CPU at that time: https://youtu.be/buLyy7x2dcQ

        The things that’s impressive about the M[x] chips are their efficiency. Apple basically lying with the performance graphs they put out is really frustrating when they have an actual amazing metric they could show: power consumption. That’s what a RISC architecture is good at

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      6 months ago

      This memory has1/4 the bandwidth of M series Mac’s. It may be possible to match current memory with 4 chips. But that would take a lot of room. And that leaves little room for growth.

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      6 months ago

      When the memory is shared with the GPU, bandwidth becomes much more important. A desktop will just use a dedicated GPU if it needs the performance.