• Wogi@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I only ever see “both sides are the same” as a atrawman, here. I’ve never seen it presented genuinely, generally I see “I have issues with the Democrats” and the only response is either “but the other guys are worse” and “bOtH sIDeS aRe ThE sAmE!!”

    ALMOST as if having an actual conversation about the problems people with the Democrats makes people uncomfortable.

    • FreddyDunningKruger@lemmy.ml
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      7 months ago

      If you really want to change the party, JOIN it, convince like-minded people to join, and start changing it from the inside.

      You know, like the way Trump and MAGA changed the Republicans.

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        7 months ago

        The DNC has made it clear they’re not interested in moving to the left and that they’re perfectly happy gradually meandering further right. Sure, 30 million Democrats might see it differently but the people voting aren’t actually in charge.

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        7 months ago

        I’ve been doing that for 20 years. Between that and spit in my hand at least the hand with spit has something to show for the effort.

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      6 months ago

      The only things liberals know how to do are using whataboutism to deflect all criticism of the Democrats by talking about the Republicans, and doing genocide apologia.

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      7 months ago

      They will make an argument like my mom where they just think its all rigged anyway, and then vote for the firsf radical they see even if ifs Traitor Trump. You have to realize these people are not even slightly informee